Why are p99 devs trying to make Green non-classic and ignoring proof?

[derpcake2]

If this server was classic me and 30 other people would be active, while 500+ people were crying on the forum.

Training PoF raids repeatedly without any GM intervention is classic. Fearing mobs and claiming you wanted to screaming terror them (same spell icon) is classic.

Lets not pretend bluebies know what classic ever was like.

[Bardp1999]

Creating massive trains is not as risk-free or easy as it sounds. Player allowed training encourages grouping (safety in numbers) and Monks/Necro/SK that participate in this behavior quickly develop horrible horrible reputations and find them selves unable to procure rez's. A monk will eventually die when attempting to train another group...or if the group is strong enough its free pulls, either way its no where near as game-breaking as people are making it out to be here on the forums. I guess the exception is solo/duo groups getting shit on - which I approve of anyways because most here on P99 are ellitist assholes who like to min max group content with as little people as possible.

So in a way player sanctioned training would make P99 more group friendly and community based (reputations, ect)... which is the most #classic thing there is.

#WildWildWest

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Idiotic logic from you again. p99 describes itself as trying to recreate Classic EQ. Problem is, that's a lie, as the server is not doing that.

Some people would like a real classic mechanics EQ server to exist. Particularly when the ability to do it is right here already, and the only thing stopping it is a dev who ignores what actually happened in classic and/or would create a better game, because he thinks (mistakenly) that his poorly conceived ruleset will increase the numbers on his server. The "classic EQ" brand on the internet now exists here, solely, creating a case of one person being able to control it, and thus distort the entire perception of EQ.

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Babys mad again

[Bardp1999]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Babys mad again

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[derpcake2]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Creating massive trains is not as risk-free or easy as it sounds. Player allowed training encourages grouping (safety in numbers) and Monks/Necro/SK that participate in this behavior quickly develop horrible horrible reputations and find them selves unable to procure rez's. A monk will eventually die when attempting to train another group...or if the group is strong enough its free pulls, either way its no where near as game-breaking as people are making it out to be here on the forums. I guess the exception is solo/duo groups getting shit on - which I approve of anyways because most here on P99 are ellitist assholes who like to min max group content with as little people as possible.

So in a way player sanctioned training would make P99 more group friendly and community based (reputations, ect)... which is the most #classic thing there is.

#WildWildWest

Have to love this guy.

Train virgin, obviously.

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[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by derpcake2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this server was classic me and 30 other people would be active, while 500+ people were crying on the forum.

Training PoF raids repeatedly without any GM intervention is classic. Fearing mobs and claiming you wanted to screaming terror them (same spell icon) is classic.

Lets not pretend bluebies know what classic ever was like.

#tryred

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know that I would have never bothered with blue if people could just come take whatever they wanted after I spent X hours camping it.

Nobody owns a camp and EQ was never intended for people to sit in the same spot all day long. If you don't want people to take your camp, then defend it by forming a group that is good enough to defeat the opposition. You are perfectly free to roll up to another camp as well and fight for it.

There is diplomacy too. Maybe people don't feel like fighting and you can agree to take turns.

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aside from that, I don't ever recall Xegony having a problem with rampant killstealing/"might makes right" or I would have never played Live for 5 years.

Yes you would have played, if the game had kept being updated to better service the idea of a living world, instead of continually becoming more watered down.

Different player communities will have different quirks and percentages of people who want to play a certain way. You didn't play early EQ though if you are trying to say it didn't exist. 5 years is not Classic EQ either. The first year of EQ is far different from what came after.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You didn't play early EQ though if you are trying to say it didn't exist. 5 years is not Classic EQ either. The first year of EQ is far different from what came after.

I am well aware of what 5 years I played, and it included the first year. I know i would not have gotten into EQ if i was a paying subscriber just getting bullied by other paying subscribers.

Maybe your server/GM handled things differently prior to the PNP being codified... ever think of that as a possibility?

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you don't want people to take your camp, then defend it by forming a group that is good enough to defeat the opposition. You are perfectly free to roll up to another camp as well and fight for it.

Different player communities will have different quirks and percentages of people who want to play a certain way. You didn't play early EQ though if you are trying to say it didn't exist.

Sorry you played on a shitty server where people acted like absolute scumbags. I started in '99 and my server (Bertox) was most certainly not like this.

Keep your Stockholm syndrome to yourself. Nobody cares.