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Old 07-03-2021, 06:27 PM
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Sirkens post was to clarify the staffs stance not to institute a new rule

"This goes against the entire spirit, and purpose of why the rules exist. Continuing to do this will result in a raid suspension for your guild."

Doesn't seem very "open to interpretation"
Seems incredibly open to interpretation considering it was posted in a thread pertaining only to Kael rules and there's nothing in the official raid rules about lull pulling. Even though they've had infinite opportunities to add a carve out for that if they wanted to. Sirken himself could've done it and added it to the official rules many times and didn't do it.

The current staff clearly don't have the same stance and they also haven't added any rules against lull pulling and there was no action taken against riot for lull pulling dain.

Not sure how much clearer the crystal needs to be to understand it's not against the current rules.
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Old 07-03-2021, 10:43 PM
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Seems incredibly open to interpretation considering it was posted in a thread pertaining only to Kael rules and there's nothing in the official raid rules about lull pulling. Even though they've had infinite opportunities to add a carve out for that if they wanted to. Sirken himself could've done it and added it to the official rules many times and didn't do it.

The current staff clearly don't have the same stance and they also haven't added any rules against lull pulling and there was no action taken against riot for lull pulling dain.

Not sure how much clearer the crystal needs to be to understand it's not against the current rules.

Thanks for the honesty at least.

Really puts into perspective all the grand standing about how y’all are ‘always trying to do the right thing’

Shamelessly admitting to doing whatever you can get away with, regardless of any concept of fair play, shows your true colors.
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Old 07-03-2021, 11:03 PM
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paci pullin, fteing with other guilded toons fuck it no rules 2021

for real i'd definitely have fun in a month with agreed 0 petitions and just whoever gets it down wins. That just would be a fun event.
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Old 07-04-2021, 12:35 AM
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paci pullin, fteing with other guilded toons fuck it no rules 2021

for real i'd definitely have fun in a month with agreed 0 petitions and just whoever gets it down wins. That just would be a fun event.
Petitions without enforcement are meaningless. ATM we are living in your dream until GMs can take care of the plate thats piling higher and higher. Been almost 3 months now since there was any decisions made on raid disputes.
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Old 07-04-2021, 12:41 AM
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Thanks for the honesty at least.

Really puts into perspective all the grand standing about how y’all are ‘always trying to do the right thing’

Shamelessly admitting to doing whatever you can get away with, regardless of any concept of fair play, shows your true colors.
There is no such thing as a "concept of fair play" on this server. You play by the rules that are laid down. There are no gentleman's agreements, no unwritten rules, this isn't baseball. If it's not spelled out in the rules it's legal, period. That's what the rules are for.

If you think something should be against the rules by all means speak up to your leadership so they can advocate for it and include it in the rules revision that is currently being worked on. Which includes no lull pulling btw.

And yes since you brought it up we are always trying to do the right thing. The "right thing" by definition meaning what's within the rules. I'm sorry if you have some other idea of a bunch of rules that aren't written down anywhere but just because you have some nebulous unwritten rules in your head doesn't mean they hold any water. We aren't bound by what you or any other member of quish thinks is right, only by the rules of the server.

Maybe it's time to study up and familiarize yourself with the actual server rules instead of running to RnF and whining incessantly when some supposed unwritten rule only you know or care about is broken.
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Old 07-04-2021, 02:14 AM
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paci pullin, fteing with other guilded toons fuck it no rules 2021

for real i'd definitely have fun in a month with agreed 0 petitions and just whoever gets it down wins. That just would be a fun event.
Didn't your leader log on another guild's bot and then train them with it recently?
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Old 07-04-2021, 03:19 AM
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Petitions without enforcement are meaningless. ATM we are living in your dream until GMs can take care of the plate thats piling higher and higher. Been almost 3 months now since there was any decisions made on raid disputes.
i think it's more like, GM's read this shit, scoff, call us nerds, and then put the earthquake button away for another month.
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Old 07-04-2021, 09:00 AM
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i think it's more like, GM's read this shit, scoff, call us nerds, and then put the earthquake button away for another month.
Yeah quaking green without blue was a pretty clear “y’all aren’t making our job very fun” message.

Oh well.

No choice but to quadruple down on “Piercing Roar!!” accusations. Amirite?
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Old 07-04-2021, 10:46 AM
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It's sad, Riot's main strategy right now is to essentially sit there and hope that vanquish trains them to get a concede. They complain about getting trained by vanquish but they never try to minimize the damage because they want those concede pixels.

Stuff like "we got trained at dain!! Concede!!!!"

Zone the fuck out retards.
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Old 07-04-2021, 11:19 AM
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It's sad, Riot's main strategy right now is to essentially sit there and hope that vanquish trains them to get a concede. They complain about getting trained by vanquish but they never try to minimize the damage because they want those concede pixels.

Stuff like "we got trained at dain!! Concede!!!!"

Zone the fuck out retards.
The solution to GMs withholding quakes. Letting petitions “pile up urmaghad!” And often just issuing blanket bans on all raid entities?

Well. File more petitions of course!

And whenever confronted on the forums - be sure to make your disdain for Gms apparent with constant comments like “herp deep no rules!” “Yuck yuck what even is an yellow text!” Or “it’s all a political game and we’re just playing it!”

Bonus points for telling everyone’s Dad to F off on Fathers Day. And promoting Ngar.

But one thing is for dangit sure:

If everyone agrees to a public oath against toxicity and mind reading - that’d just be some weak shizzle that accomplishes nothing.

Such is life!
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