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Old 02-09-2019, 09:07 PM
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You don't really need 3k to solo a melee either.
When did "being able to solo as untwinked melee character" become our standard of a good server? (That's rhetorical, not picking on you Jimbo.) In the classic EverQuest I remember melees didn't solo, or at least not consistently for experience (they totally soloed for fun and maybe loot, but only soloed for XP if they absolutely couldn't find a group or were killing time while they waited for one).

Maybe in Luclin as more Fungis accrued, mudflation increased the available twink items, the bazaar made buying them easier, AAs led to free mass Aegolism buffs, and things like Paludal Cavern introduced EZ mode for alts ... but in Classic through Velious it felt to me like less than 1% of the server had the resources to twink out a character anywhere close to P99 twink levels. Just about everyone was busy working on their first character (or they worked on alts when their main wasn't close to 60). Of the people who did have twinking resources, most twinked out hybrids and casters. And out of the ones that twinked melees the vast vast majority grouped with those twinked melees.

A warrior soloing for levels in classic was a freak, if they even existed at all. Or at least that's the EQ I remember.

P.S. Ok, now go ahead and tell me your stories of how your server was full of soloing twinked melees in Kunark .... I know this forum, I'm waiting ...
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:26 PM
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When did "being able to solo as untwinked melee character" become our standard of a good server? (That's rhetorical, not picking on you Jimbo.) In the classic EverQuest I remember melees didn't solo, or at least not consistently for experience (they totally soloed for fun and maybe loot, but only soloed for XP if they absolutely couldn't find a group or were killing time while they waited for one).

Maybe in Luclin as more Fungis accrued, mudflation increased the available twink items, the bazaar made buying them easier, AAs led to free mass Aegolism buffs, and things like Paludal Cavern introduced EZ mode for alts ... but in Classic through Velious it felt to me like less than 1% of the server had the resources to twink out a character anywhere close to P99 twink levels. Just about everyone was busy working on their first character (or they worked on alts when their main wasn't close to 60). Of the people who did have twinking resources, most twinked out hybrids and casters. And out of the ones that twinked melees the vast vast majority grouped with those twinked melees.

A warrior soloing for levels in classic was a freak, if they even existed at all. Or at least that's the EQ I remember.

P.S. Ok, now go ahead and tell me your stories of how your server was full of soloing twinked melees in Kunark .... I know this forum, I'm waiting ...

I soloed Warrior in vanilla. To lev 5! Everyone was very impressed I made it that far.
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Old 02-09-2019, 10:01 PM
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ALS for life! Every single player in ALS goes through the process of no twinkage and not only that we don’t use the outside economy so no 100pp 12/24 weapons etc on melee. Lots of starting characters rock combine weapons, etc. you will enjoy every level and actually progress through upgrades! Come give us a try!
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Old 02-10-2019, 12:53 AM
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Old 02-10-2019, 01:54 AM
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If you cant enjoy blue 99 with the current neckbeards why would you assume you will enjoy green 99 with the exact same neckbeards
Because those neckbeards are so tied to their pixels they already earned and their false sens of superiority that we can be fairly certain they wont even touch green with a ten foot pole.
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Old 02-10-2019, 01:56 AM
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When did "being able to solo as untwinked melee character" become our standard of a good server? (That's rhetorical, not picking on you Jimbo.) In the classic EverQuest I remember melees didn't solo, or at least not consistently for experience (they totally soloed for fun and maybe loot, but only soloed for XP if they absolutely couldn't find a group or were killing time while they waited for one).

Maybe in Luclin as more Fungis accrued, mudflation increased the available twink items, the bazaar made buying them easier, AAs led to free mass Aegolism buffs, and things like Paludal Cavern introduced EZ mode for alts ... but in Classic through Velious it felt to me like less than 1% of the server had the resources to twink out a character anywhere close to P99 twink levels. Just about everyone was busy working on their first character (or they worked on alts when their main wasn't close to 60). Of the people who did have twinking resources, most twinked out hybrids and casters. And out of the ones that twinked melees the vast vast majority grouped with those twinked melees.

A warrior soloing for levels in classic was a freak, if they even existed at all. Or at least that's the EQ I remember.

P.S. Ok, now go ahead and tell me your stories of how your server was full of soloing twinked melees in Kunark .... I know this forum, I'm waiting ...
Agreed. I only ever heard of and saw monks soloing in Luclin once fungis became much more accessible. Before then there was maybe that one monk who would solo dragons but other than that you never heard about anyone soloing.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:35 AM
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Agreed. I only ever heard of and saw monks soloing in Luclin once fungis became much more accessible. Before then there was maybe that one monk who would solo dragons but other than that you never heard about anyone soloing.
You weren't looking closely then. I soloed on my monk alt almost exclusively 1-40 pre Luclin. There were solo guides available at the time, this was without a fungi and very little twinking. Monks were always a solo class, I believe Loramin is referring to warriors and rogues.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:37 AM
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You weren't looking closely then. I soloed on my monk alt almost exclusively 1-40 pre Luclin. There were solo guides available at the time, this was without a fungi and very little twinking. Monks were always a solo class, I believe Loramin is referring to warriors and rogues.
Prove it.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:42 AM
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Prove it.
Lawl really ? If you care so much, use the wayback machine and find it. I'm sure there are others with similar experiences.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:43 AM
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Lawl really ? If you care so much, use the wayback machine and find it. I'm sure there are others with similar experiences.
Yeah I have. Ive gone back on Monkly business often, and ya know what? Rarely was anyone soloing prior to luclin. Only exceptionally geared and skilled players were doing it. Past lvl 20 or so you couldnt solo anymore without great gear. It was rare.
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