Did i catch a GM/Guide abusing his powers?!

[Falisaty]

Ok here the the situation i zone into Sol a gana get me a Lord G ring. I do a /w all only 4 ppl in zone I show up to lord g room its clear yes but no one around. I set up camp gana wait to see if anyone shows back up to claim as no one was in the room as I entered.

A couple min after pet is summoned and ready I get a tell from a guy in Europa named Natoria saying he is at the spawn spot camping Lord g but he is leaving soon. I'm fine with that I'm not gana be a dick but he isn't showing up in the /w command still only the same four people. So I /w all Natoria and he shows up saying he is in Sol A? first flag flies. The mob pops instantly agros, my pet one round of combat goes off then the mob instantly dies by an unseen hand?! WTF!!!! Second flag flies..... Did i catch something i wasn't supposed to am I going crazy or was a GM/Guide abusing his powers?

first pic shows the /w

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sec pic shows mob dieing by unseen hand

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[GnashingOfTeeth]

Off the top of my head...

Person that killed is not on the zone list after being bugged. - (my guess since the /w didnt show the person in zone)
Person that killed the mob is using a hack.
GM DT'ed it.

[Jfertal]

Oh fudge

[Itap]

What is this sorcery

[khanable]

I've definitely bugged out and haven't been able to "see" people in zone. It's super annoying when they're grouped with me - looks like they're out of zone yet they're standing right next to me and I can't interact with them in a normal group way (buffing healing etc). Gotta camp out to fix that shit.

As far as the "unseen hand", perhaps you were bugged, and this "unseen hand" message is the default message that is displayed by the server when something dies from damage from a person that isn't registering on your client. So, maybe, the guy was bugged out and not displaying in zone yet standing there the whole time, and dropped a massive nuke on it or something that killed it but since your client was all like lolhesnothere it just displayed a "well something killed it" message.

[Ravager]

Clearly the handiwork of the Circle of Unseen Hands.

That is kinda weird though, never seen that message before.

[Falisaty]

yes but if he was bugged i don't think he would have showed up on a /w all <name> command or am i wrong?

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Falisaty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes but if he was bugged i don't think he would have showed up on a /w all <name> command or am i wrong?

No, he would. This happened to me two nights ago. My group cleric Verenity was displayed as 'out of group' - I couldn't see him in the zone at all (his character or /who), but he registered on a /who all and it said he was in the same zone as me.

Had to camp out to fix it.

[Nihilist_santa]

Interesting Uthgaard post regarding that message

"Being slain by an unseen hand generally means you were killed by something that isn't on the entity list. (An invisible gm is one example) But you would still see some damage source, afaik. Even /kill and #kill send a packet that forces you to hit yourself for 10000000001 damage. It is possible to load up MQ on the server and send a packet to do that and steal a camp. It's just logged, not autobanned.

How much xp did you lose? Pve or pvp amount?"

http://www.project1999.com/forums/ar...p/t-59339.html

If that post above is true then either a GM or MQ user?

[Ele]

Which seems more likely?

You were bugged or a GM killing trash mobs in a level 30 camp for an extra cleric epic turn in.