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Just heard a yuppie orthodox liberal say Bernie didn't want to sell out, but feared for his life. Referenced the Clinton death toll right wingosphere internet stuff. So fucking funny watching these roaches scatter.
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Bernie is 100% a sellout. He tried to paint himself as anti-corruption (remember the Bernie Transcripts?) and now he is endorsing the #1 high priestess of corruption herself, Hillary. Why? No doubt they promised him all sorts of things under the table.
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1. Get elected. 2. If that fails, make sure Clinton beats Trump. #2 is Bernie's logical course of action because a Trump presidency is even more adverse to his values than a Clinton presidency. It's also where I disagree with Bernie, precisely because of immigration, racial, and national-culture issues. For all Trump's dishonest rhetoric (he is as incoherent as Hillary), what policy he has put forward is your run of the mill 'rising tide lifts all boats' 'cut-taxes-on-the-ultra-wealthy' generic fiscal conservatism. And while Clinton is ultimately probably going to offer something close to the same thing, it's going to be further to the left in many areas, closer to where Bernie is (but still very far away) And no I'm not backtracking on my vote. I'd still vote Bernie in a heartbeat if he were the nominee, and I still despise Trump. It's only the convergence of a lot of different very complicated factors that has resulted in this kind of god-awful reality where the best course of action is to vote for someone like Trump. The United States had to ally with the Soviet Union to defeat Nazi Germany. That wasn't because the US and USSR were best friends or because the USA was 'selling out' its values... luckily our leaders didn't have such a simplistic mindset. It was because we thought the US/USSR winning the war was a better outcome than Nazis taking over Europe. And no, uncoupling wealth from political power was Bernie's #1 overarching stance. That's absolutely not beneficial to the ultra-rich, and it's something he shared with no other candidate. | |||||
Last edited by Lune; 07-12-2016 at 06:42 PM..
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Bernies policies look great on paper. Assuming it was a small bit of paper with no room for the equations.
Im sure he is a lovely fella too. I'd buy him a pint of warm beer. Then id tell him he needs to understand math , the real world and stop relying on a debt based monetary system that compounds interest at source. Until any of these dumb mothers fuckers running for office understand what the Federal Reserves job is and who the Fed represents , theyre all smoke blowing clowns and youre all dumb dumbs wasting your time arguing about it. Go outside for a walk or even sit in side and play EQ. Its all more fruitful than arguing Trump v Clinton v Sanders. If youre gonna get politically active you might want to get past the 2 party elections that are just dog and pony shows. Youre a constitutional republic for Gods sake. You created the greatest country mankind has ever known. And you think Bernie , or Trump , or Clinton are the answer? LOL. Mother nature bats last. And she has a 1.00 hitting record. Bernie aint even close to being a smart vote. At least you might get a few more years of economic juice out of Trump before the big ponzi blows up. Wake me up when the smoke clears. And kiss goodbye to all those unfunded liabilities. | ||
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I mean, David Duke supports Donald Trump. Then again, you are probably very fond of David Duke. But you probably get my point. | |||
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ETA: Duke has been turned into some boogeyman. If you listen to his radio show its nothing like what probably 99% of people here are thinking. I imagine people think of it as "kike , ******, spic etc" but he is nothing like that. Pretty rational guy who can articulate his views pretty well on the issues surrounding ZOG. | |||
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The guy is a convicted felon, thief, and fraudster. When I was talking bad about David Duke I wasn't even talking about the racism part, I can understand that. There are a whole host of racists endorsing Trump. But no Duke is a white collar criminal. He isn't even allowed to set foot in mainland Europe. I hate people who abuse their political power or influence a lot more than I hate racists. | |||
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HAHA dude didnt give his slice to the Jews is all. You think he should be banned from Europe for talking about Nazism? Fucking thought crime man.
The shit he has been charged with is clearly attempts by the establishment to subvert him. Mail fraud? give me a break. | ||
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