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Premiums Unveiled For Health Overhaul Plans
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Get ready for the shitstorm.
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If you have a preexisting condition that prevented you from getting care, or a chronic condition that's costing you more than $6,350 per year, you will make out well. If you are young and healthy and don't have insurance, you could be fucked. Those without health insurance also tend to be the ones who can't easily afford the extra monthly expense of premiums. Even with tax credits it's an extra expense forced on them, to preserve the insurance companies' profits. As if working class monthly budgets aren't already stretched thin... This is going to be good. The labor unions are starting to bitch now but the shitstorm hasn't even started yet.
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Insurance companies in America are 100% corrupt.
Health insurance companies in America are 2000% corrupt. Might as well be a case for logans run. Social health care can be debated. The evil nature of American hospitals and insurance is not really up for debate in my mind lol. | ||
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Yeah, I don't understand how some people are happy about this. The plans for these have outrageous deductibles, extremely small networks, high co-pays, and we are FORCED to buy them.
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I'm so glad this is what I have to look forward to for the rest of my life. IMO the best option would be to let us all rot without insurance but force this measure on anyone who makes over $400,000 USD yearly. Make them pick from these plans and bar all other insurance. You know because those rich asses are so valuable and important to our society. We couldn't have them getting sick on top of their piles of cash. Even better force the Congresscritters and president to take the bronze plan by default. To save on government spending. ***Income number used as arbitrary as the numbers for these insurance plans, nothing personal. ****At least currently for this very moment I'm an out of work "veteran" with no income who is a dependent. This means I have access to tricare free of charge. Wonder if there is a loophole somewhere for me? | |||
Last edited by runlvlzero; 09-26-2013 at 12:49 AM..
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Nobody forces people to buy this. The tax "penalty" for not purchasing a plan is typically much less than the health insurance premiums are. The tax penalty ends up being, I believe, a max of 1%-2.5% of annual income, whereas the premiums are loosly based around 4-8% of an anual income.
Additionally many people can be exempt. The situation where the guy earns $8,000 per year and the premium would end up costing him 50% of his income is FALSE. Anytime the premiums end up being over a given threshhold (I think it's currently 9%) that person can apply and will get exemption from needing to purchase the plan. | ||
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For example, the tax "penalty" for a 27 year old single individual making $25,000 anually only comes out to like $625 per year.
This website generally has answered any question I've had regarding the process. Here's a link to the tax penalty for those who chose not to be covered bit: http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-tax-penalty.php | ||
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I'm not sure why this is a "good thing" to you. That was my whole point that went entirely over your head. How is the person in the state with no Medicaid expansion going to pay for their insurance? They get no subsidies. No Medicaid. But they can pay 50% of their income towards buying insurance through an exchange. For 7 million of the poorest working Americans, that is their only option for insurance. These are the people earning minimum wage at part time jobs. The ones whose hours have been reduced. Whose employers do not offer insurance. It seems to me that the most humane option is to plug the Medicaid gap by allowing those earning under the poverty level to get subsidies. Why punish the working poor for being "too poor"?
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Last edited by Stinkum; 09-26-2013 at 02:54 PM..
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