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Old 07-07-2020, 10:05 AM
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Kunark and Velious were originally planned to be included at launch. The concept and story for them existed in the original design. Qeynos/Odus was the first area to be developed and there would have been a boat from Erudin to Velious. That was dropped pretty early but kept in there for future use.

When it came time to do Velious though they were trying to make stuff more convenient overall so just had one boat from NRo.
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Old 07-07-2020, 10:20 AM
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It frustrates me they dropped all these hints at future expansion, but then completely forgot about them when they were actually released (Fgts of Kunark faction hits in SolDungB).

Suggestion for custom content on blue: Fire Giant dungeon city in Kunark.

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Advanced booking only for Velious.

Tbh its pretty inconvenient having to visit erudin just to get tickets for passage from N Ro to Velious, but it is what it is.


Seriously though, I always wondered if a ticket system was planned then dropped. Having ticket offices at all the ports seemed like a level of world building that wouldn't be bothered with unless there was an actual mechanic attached.
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Old 07-07-2020, 12:12 PM
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Kunark and Velious were originally planned to be included at launch. The concept and story for them existed in the original design. Qeynos/Odus was the first area to be developed and there would have been a boat from Erudin to Velious. That was dropped pretty early but kept in there for future use.

When it came time to do Velious though they were trying to make stuff more convenient overall so just had one boat from NRo.
oh, the more you know
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Old 07-07-2020, 01:07 PM
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It frustrates me they dropped all these hints at future expansion, but then completely forgot about them when they were actually released (Fgts of Kunark faction hits in SolDungB).

Suggestion for custom content on blue: Fire Giant dungeon city in Kunark.



Advanced booking only for Velious.

Tbh its pretty inconvenient having to visit erudin just to get tickets for passage from N Ro to Velious, but it is what it is.


Seriously though, I always wondered if a ticket system was planned then dropped. Having ticket offices at all the ports seemed like a level of world building that wouldn't be bothered with unless there was an actual mechanic attached.
I wonder if part of the reason they scrapped it is that it had the potential to be rendered useless by teleports. For example, if a ticket costs 25pp and a Druid or Wizard says they’ll port you for like 20 then you’re not gonna take the boat, especially if the port is closer to where you need to go. The whole reason people take the boats is because they’re free otherwise it’s not worth the hassle when you have Druids and Wizards undercutting the ticket price lol
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Old 07-07-2020, 01:09 PM
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If interested, here is their prelaunch maps:

https://imgur.com/a/va4bm
(Love Kithicok Woods)

And Velious:
https://imgur.com/Ywvtu7P

You can clearly see what areas they had more finalized, but yes, original idea was 5 continents at launch. You can see Velious on the Norrath globe models in Kunark for example too.

Never forget we are just playing in a couple guys DnD 3.5 campaign from 30 years ago:

Tony Garcia's Lucan Character sheet: https://loreofnorrath.wordpress.com/...n-deboterlere/

Bill Trost's Mayong Sheet:
https://loreofnorrath.wordpress.com/...aracter-sheet/
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Old 07-07-2020, 02:12 PM
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Old 07-07-2020, 02:24 PM
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If interested, here is their prelaunch maps:

https://imgur.com/a/va4bm
(Love Kithicok Woods)

And Velious:
https://imgur.com/Ywvtu7P

You can clearly see what areas they had more finalized, but yes, original idea was 5 continents at launch. You can see Velious on the Norrath globe models in Kunark for example too.

Never forget we are just playing in a couple guys DnD 3.5 campaign from 30 years ago:

Tony Garcia's Lucan Character sheet: https://loreofnorrath.wordpress.com/...n-deboterlere/

Bill Trost's Mayong Sheet:
https://loreofnorrath.wordpress.com/...aracter-sheet/
That's some good stuff right there.. great find!
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Old 07-07-2020, 02:39 PM
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If you look at the older eqgame.exe files and extract its strings with PE Explorer, you can see a lot of cool messages. Apparently they were planning on people needing to buy tickets to use boats but they never got it working.
Look at this little dude we never got to see! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] He;s hiding below akanon geometry.

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https://forum.shardsofdalaya.com/thr...15/post-284248
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Old 07-07-2020, 02:53 PM
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Zone list from the phase4 beta .exe which I linked earlier. They were planning a few more that never made the cut:

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00589A30: 'magi',0
00589A38: 'jrbase1',0
00589A40: 'erudsxing',0
00589A4C: 'arena',0
00589A54: 'hateplane',0
00589A60: 'kerraridge',0
00589A6C: 'permafrost',0
00589A78: 'fearplane',0
00589A84: 'cauldron',0
00589A94: 'kaladimb',0
00589AA0: 'gukbottom',0
00589AAC: 'guktop',0
00589AB4: 'kedge',0
00589ABC: 'unrest',0
00589AC4: 'felwitheb',0
00589AD0: 'mistmoore',0
00589ADC: 'crushbone',0
00589AE8: 'lfaydark',0
00589AF4: 'aviak',0
00589AFC: 'lakerathe',0
00589B08: 'rathemtn',0
00589B14: 'cazicthule',0
00589B20: 'qcat',0
00589B28: 'najena',0
00589B30: 'neriakd',0
00589B38: 'neriaka',0
00589B40: 'hole',0
00589B48: 'befallen',0
00589B54: 'soldungb',0
00589B60: 'soldunga',0
00589B6C: 'nektropos',0
00589B78: 'lavastorm',0
00589B84: 'erudnint',0
00589B90: 'ecommons',0
00589B9C: 'commons',0
00589BA4: 'kithicor',0
00589BB4: 'blackburrow',0
00589BC0: 'beholder',0
00589BCC: 'eastkarana',0
00589BD8: 'southkarana',0
00589BE4: 'northkarana',0
00589BF0: 'qey2hh1',0
00589BF8: 'runnyeye',0
00589C04: 'freportn',0
00589C10: 'highcave',0
00589C1C: 'highkeep',0
00589C28: 'highpass',0
0058639C: 'misty',0
005863A4: 'feerrott',0
005863B0: 'innothule',0
005863BC: 'steamfont',0
005863C8: 'nektulos',0
005863D4: 'neriak',0
005863DC: 'butcher',0
005863E4: 'kaladim',0
005863F0: 'everfrost',0
005863FC: 'freport',0
00586404: 'qeynos2',0
0058640C: 'freportw',0
00586418: 'erudnext',0
00586424: 'felwithea',0
00586430: 'halas',0
00586438: 'neriakc',0
00586440: 'neriakb',0
00586448: 'grobb',0
00586450: 'oggok',0
00586458: 'kaladima',0
00586464: 'gfaydark',0
00586470: 'akanon',0
00586478: 'rivervale',0
00586484: 'qeynos',0
0057DA74: 'airplane',0
00580A30: 'oasis',0
0058D510: 'abbey',0
0058D534: 'kedgekeep',0
0058D61C: 'tower',0
0058D648: 'permacave',0
Quote:
0058D4FC: 'Abbey of Innoruuk',0
0058D560: 'Neriak Palace',0
0058D554: 'Nektropos',0
0058D60C: 'Tower of Rot',0
0058D624: 'Aviak Village',0
Also Lycanthropy:

Quote:
00586BD8: 'You feel as though a great weight has been lifted from thy soul.',0
00586C1C: ', looks as though a dark shadow has descended.',0
00586C4C: 'You feel as though a curse has benn laid upon thy soul...',0
00586C88: 'Lycanthropy',0
Bard song that didn't make the cut (Hymn of Angels):

Quote:
0058724C: ' listens to a beautiful hymn, and looks healthier.',0
00587280: 'You hear a beautiful hymn, and feel healthier.',0
005872B0: ' makes angelic music.',0
005872D4: 'You make angelic music.',0
005872EC: 'Hymn of Angels',0
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:18 PM
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Wait, I thought DMO didn't have alts in ST?
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