A Socialist Position on Predator Pornographers

[JurisDictum]

It's been awhile since I pissed everyone off with some cultural leftism, so I thought I'd talk about what Porn should be illegal in a Socialist society.

Basically, everything fine except assholes like Max Hardcore, and the Facial Abuse guys. Even if you just fucking looove watching women gag and struggle for breathe, there is some more kosher options now. Producers that are at least are relatively as respectful as possible when filming degrading rough blowjob porn. What sparked my interest in this topic was this experience by an porn actress with Facial Abuse:

Then the shit started. I was headed to a shoot with Facial Abuse. I had done my research and looked at the site. It look pretty damn rough but I was reassured it would be fine. Because of traffic I got there a little late. After I got my makeup done and got dressed everything was put on hold while we waited for the camera guy to show up. In that time I signed my contract and took some photos on set. Just before we started shooting I had to ask the producer to show me the male talents STD tests before we started which was met with some sighing and the tests. Shady for sure. At that point I just wanted to get done. when the camera guy finally arrived at midnight we started shooting. My plan was to try and get through as much of the scene as possible before taking a break. The fewer breaks, the sooner I could get a burger and pass out. Once we started I didn't even make it for 2 minutes before I had to stop. I started on my knees with the male talent literally shoving their cocks down my throat until I gagged an couldn't breath.

I had to break because I was ready to pass out. when we started again it was no easier. I was still on my knees an the guys were so aggressive that at one point I literally had to stand up and push with all of my strength to get off of him. there is no point in having a safe word when you can't talk. I was clawing at their legs and slapping their thighs and they still wouldn't let up. So I took another breather and now I had 5 minutes of footage under my belt. After my break one of the guys picked me up and threw me over his shoulder and shoved me on him again. Then they pulled me off by my hair and smacked me in the face so hard it gave me a bloody nose. they didn't even notice that I was bleeding until they threw me onto the couch and started throat fucking me while my head hung off the couch. the guy jumped off and was like dude you have a bloody nose! That will look great on camera! I took another break and cleaned up my face and had some water. As I was sitting on the couch I noticed that I was having trouble seeing straight. One eye was looking one way and the other looked straight. So not cool. We started again with me leaning off the couch again and again I had to shove the guys off of me with all my might to be able to breath. I even threw myself on the floor to get away and they picked me back up, dropped me on the couch and kept going. finally I called for a break and took off for the dressing room. I was so done being abused.

I was literally shaking and my brain was no longer in the just get through the scene mode. It was very fight or flight and I could not go on anymore. After a quick call home and a cigarette, some people tried to comfort me and get me to finish the scene. I'm sorry but there was no amount anyone could pay me at this point to keep me going. After another minute to gather myself I walked back on set and said I was tapping out. They told me that they had about enough footage that they could sell it if they got the popshot so I sat on the floor and finished the scene. For all of that they paid me $200. I packed up my clothes and headed back to the city. I was so shook up I was crying on the way home too. I literally could not even swallow my soda. Those are the facts take them as you like. when I got back to NYC at 4am I was so exhausted I ate 4 Sun chips and fell asleep.

These contracts are exploitive to the performers. The lure women in with the wrong idea or try to get them so young they can't fathom what they are up for, and pay them like shit when they back out. These are working class girls and this is particularly distasteful exploitation by the bourgeois. We can't allow a legal structure that permits systematically pushing 18-22 yr old females further than they would have been willing to go if they knew beforehand.

It's worth noting however, that in a Socialist society no woman would feel desperate enough to feel porn is a necessary option. But I have no doubt there would still be plenty. The economy finds a way when it comes to porn.

[xtraball]

Make abuse illegal, not porn.

[Mead]

I especially love the part about after taking her first two minute break she thought it was going to be easier. Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit. I've watched a couple of efukt videos with this crap, and every time it's really hard to watch, but you're signing up for a porno that is literally called face assault. You can find a thousand videos on it before you even attempt it. You make them sound so naive. They know what they're getting into.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by xtraball [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Make abuse illegal, not porn.

all pornography is abusive to both the talent and the viewer

[maskedmelonpai]

it a good thing socialists are against violent porn. can't imagine any other demographics who would be too. glad to see socialism going out on a limb liek this in defense of women.

[chadtwoke]

Originally Posted by maskedmelonpai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it a good thing socialists are against violent porn. can't imagine any other demographics who would be too. glad to see socialism going out on a limb liek this in defense of women.

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[maskedmelonpai]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea he is really putting himself out there.

Follow up question - Hitler - good or bad?

well, as a socialist, i am sure he would have been behind OP on this, but i still feel he did enough other bad stuff to be a net bad. that just me though. am i alone in this?

[dafier]

Seems a bit extreme even for P99 "Off Topic".

I mean.....

nevermind

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The real question is would Germany have started WW2 and committed atrocities against the Jews if Hitler was never born? And by that I mean was the social climate in Germany such that WW2/Holocaust was probably going to be inevitable and whoever lead was just a figure head? Is Hitler personally responsible? I think its completely probable that he was just the spark that lite the gas of hate for a people who were ready for something to change (Remind you of anything HINT: modern America). I typically lean towards the idea of governments running themselves and whatever happens is the will of the collective whole, but Hitler was also totalitarian so I think he deserves more blame. Its like how people call George W Bush a mass murderer even though I strongly believe he has never personally killed anyone. Not sure where I am going with any of this by the way... Just posting in a sketchy thread.

Hitler would have not been able to do what he did without the underlying conditions in place by the Paris Peace Conference 1919. The Germans were paying heavy reparations for starting World War II. This provided the climate of resentment for Hitler's rise.

But Hitler himself was a huge part of World War II. He actually terrified the German military leaders into following his theories of offensive war. In the last war, The defensive was so strong attacking any nation with entrenched artillery and machine guns was basically suicide (no good combat planes then or tanks). Hitler before the actual military of Germany, saw that Tanks and other motorized inventions made offensive combat much more viable. I don't think just a regular fascist leader would have done this -- meaning Hitler takes at least some individual responsibility for it.

Basically World War II wasn't all Hitler... But it is probably the War you can point to where 1 person made the difference.

I'm against Hitler...unlike some of Trump's base of late. And I don't think Republicans or Democrats have a big problem with this kind of porn because they haven't even talked about it yet. A couple of super christen ex-porn girls made a documentary or two that is about it.

For the most part people say: whatever you should have known. Not "Well -- that is too far.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I especially love the part about after taking her first two minute break she thought it was going to be easier. Get the fuck out of here with this bullshit. I've watched a couple of efukt videos with this crap, and every time it's really hard to watch, but you're signing up for a porno that is literally called face assault. You can find a thousand videos on it before you even attempt it. You make them sound so naive. They know what they're getting into.

I don't think she was lying. I think she saw googled it on her iphone and looked at some facefucking videos (probably with sound low or off) for a few mins and said "IDK that looks pretty rough." Then I think this friendly business contact of hers said "oh no -- their nice guys (so she can get $120) and it's not as bad as it looks."

Then I think she showed up and was shocked about how rough it was. I think that happens to a lot of girls they lure out there. There are lots of girls that did 1 scene with them and quit porn, or didn't make it and weren't paid. Meaning this is all done systematically and is somewhat predictable by these porn directors.

She did all kinds of a rough porn mind you -- this is the one she flipped out about and posted several stories about how she felt mislead and abused by the experience. This is not the first time this kind of thing has come up with them specifically.