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AM is probably issuing responder DKP for this thread.

[ajohnymous]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah after being called out for their hypocrisy. This is why the discussion needs to be public. Which I imagine is why Detoxx came public with it. Riot will only go so far and then argue.

Detoxx posted it in a channel where a very select few can post which leaves zero room for discussion. The pastebin is from a Discord server where the major guilds have all of their officers in. I'm not sure where else this discussion would happen.

From what I read on that pastebin, Riot was trying to open a discussion with everyone about the raid scene and the AM people were responding with argumentative, inflammatory, and/or accusatory statements.

[Vianna]

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That your guild's in the shitter :'(


I guess a nerve got hit. But if you want to trash guilds do it publicly so people can see the type of people we are dealing with.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah after being called out for their hypocrisy. This is why the discussion needs to be public. Which I imagine is why Detoxx came public with it. Riot will only go so far and then argue.

The conversation was initiated by Riot. It was initiated months ago when we suggested Tormax. That was met with no response.

Claim what you want, but Detoxx’s proposal is one last parting shot of a failing guild after realizing he’s lost.

It also conspicuously leaves out any mobs AM is good at.

Doesn’t matter tho. We’ll work out something that makes sense.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by ajohnymous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Detoxx posted it in a channel where a very select few can post which leaves zero room for discussion. The pastebin is from a Discord server where the major guilds have all of their officers in. I'm not sure where else this discussion would happen.

From what I read on that pastebin, Riot was trying to open a discussion with everyone about the raid scene and the AM people were responding with argumentative, inflammatory, and/or accusatory statements.

No both AM officers was offering up better options for smaller guilds. Not a 2 hour window from when a mob spawns. As I already pointed out most smaller guilds can't even field a raid force to kill some targets depending when they spawn. A 2 hour window would continue to lock almost everyone outside of the large guilds out of content.

The one time Kittens and friends killed Vyemm as an example it took them close to 4 hours to get it done. It seems to me Monrezz and Detoxx hit the nail on the head with their offers and you guys continue to be blind to the reality of smaller guilds.

[Not_Mikeo]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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I guess a nerve got hit. But if you want to trash guilds do it publicly so people can see the type of people we are dealing with.

I'm sorry your guild is in the shitter.

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Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://pastebin.com/A01R4uBx

For anyone that cares about how tonight’s conversation went, before Detoxx offered up the inner ring. This is in EST.

Wow lol

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No both AM officers was offering up better options for smaller guilds. Not a 2 hour window from when a mob spawns. As I already pointed out most smaller guilds can't even field a raid force to kill some targets depending when they spawn. A 2 hour window would continue to lock almost everyone outside of the large guilds out of content.

The one time Kittens and friends killed Vyemm as an example it took them close to 4 hours to get it done. It seems to me Monrezz and Detoxx hit the nail on the head with their offers and you guys continue to be blind to the reality of smaller guilds.

Who ever said anything about a two hour window? No one in the UN channel, that I saw.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The conversation was initiated by Riot. It was initiated months ago when we suggested Tormax. That was met with no response.

Claim what you want, but Detoxx’s proposal is one last parting shot of a failing guild after realizing he’s lost.

It also conspicuously leaves out any mobs AM is good at.

Doesn’t matter tho. We’ll work out something that makes sense.

This whole comment makes you seem insincere. You act like AM didn't just kill the 2 best mobs in the game this week (Dozekar and KT). Which is also besides the point. You are trying to deflect from the fact that the AM officers made a better proposal for smaller guilds and your guild balked almost immediately.

[ajohnymous]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No both AM officers was offering up better options for smaller guilds. Not a 2 hour window from when a mob spawns. As I already pointed out most smaller guilds can't even field a raid force to kill some targets depending when they spawn. A 2 hour window would continue to lock almost everyone outside of the large guilds out of content.

The one time Kittens and friends killed Vyemm as an example it took them close to 4 hours to get it done. It seems to me Monrezz and Detoxx hit the nail on the head with their offers and you guys continue to be blind to the reality of smaller guilds.

I didn't see anyone in Riot outright dismissing the idea of a rotation with smaller guilds. In fact, they offered one with VP:


Arthion <Riot>Today at 7:14 PM
Nah, you and we don't need to rotate vp.
am/riot (1 slot) / everyone else (2nd sllot)

DetoxxToday at 7:14 PM
nah

Arthion <Riot>Today at 7:14 PM
Ok.


It did not appear to be well received.