Lists don’t work cause people share accounts

[Sethius Marlowe]

Fight me.

It was a good thought but it’s a dumb system. You cause solve a problem by causing another. Didn’t want people to lock down the camp so it got made that any good item was guaranteed. But also probably guaranteed to take days. And then have an weird gravity well of sunk cost that the longer you’re there the more you should stay. Won’t be better with the merge.

Bring back people’s opportunity to go win an item randomly in 30 minutes so people feel like giving shit a chance. Everyone loves gambling and if there’s a chance to win people have fun. That’s the game.

[Smellybuttface]

But lists have worked. If it wasn’t for lists, the high end guilds would neckbeard those camps to death and just pass them from one guildie to the next. At least with lists even commonfolk have a chance at the legacy items.
People wouldn’t have to account share if the drop rates weren’t so abysmally low. But why should someone stay up for 50 hours straight when they can easily have a friend share the load?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Smellybuttface [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But lists have worked. If it wasn’t for lists, the high end guilds would neckbeard those camps to death and just pass them from one guildie to the next. At least with lists even commonfolk have a chance at the legacy items.
People wouldn’t have to account share if the drop rates weren’t so abysmally low. But why should someone stay up for 50 hours straight when they can easily have a friend share the load?

I think this is key. I'm a big believer that lists could work better, but it's undeniable (to anyone who played on Blue for 5+ years prior to Green and Teal) that lists are a massive improvement over letting neckbeards (unclassically) run rampant without supervision.

[derpcake2]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this is key. I'm a big believer that lists could work better, but it's undeniable (to anyone who played on Blue for 5+ years prior to Green and Teal) that lists are a massive improvement over letting neckbeards (unclassically) run rampant without supervision.

I can't imagine a scenario that is worse compared to competing with account-sharing neckbeards camping items for over 50 hours.

This from a casual euro red player.

On the upside there is going to be the account stripping drama in a while so it isn't all bad.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by derpcake2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't imagine a scenario that is worse compared to competing with account-sharing neckbeards camping items for over 50 hours.

That's exactly it. You can't make those people go away. And you can't isolate them on their own server (us on Teal kind of had that for awhile, but it couldn't last).

The only solution is to create a system that lets both sane and insane people play together and have fun, and trust me: /list does that far, far better than simply letting players do whatever they want. On Blue we've had guilds monopolizing items for months at a time ... and those weren't items that were going away, they were items that were guaranteed to be there in a year on Blue.

Again, I'm not saying /list is perfect, but it's just so much better than no rules.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

improvement over letting neckbeards (unclassically) run rampant without supervision.

Because so many normal people stay online responding to ago checks for 30+ hours straight and/or set up spreadsheets to cover 24/7 account sharing with internet pals? Lol.

[Asteria]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because so many normal people stay online responding to ago checks for 30+ hours straight and/or set up spreadsheets to cover 24/7 account sharing with internet pals? Lol.

Acting all tough... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Kron]

They work but need some changes. If you log or /q you should be booted the bottom of the list.

You can clearly tell people logging out and a min later log back in and look around like they need to get their bearings.

[Bardp1999]

Get gud shit head

[BurtMacklinFBI]

I wish they got rid of lists so I could personally deny casual scum their Non-Lore manastones and soak up the REEEEES