Is monk vs warrior dps really classic right now?

[Splorf22]

So I met a TMO monk in the Dreadlands today and since we both had Fungi tunics we put aside our differences and duoed a bit. What I don't understand is how the hell monks do so much more damage than warriors.

Imgunna [47 Iksar Monk with Peacebringer, Sash of the Dragonborn]
--- DMG: 29355 (66.05%) @ 36 dps (35 sdps)
--- DMG to PC: 5741 @7dps

Sakuragi [49 Iksar Warrior with Sarnak Warhammer/Sword of Skyfire + Wurmslayer or Staff of Battle, FBSS]
--- DMG: 15091 (33.95%) @ 18 dps (18 sdps)
--- DMG to PC: 6321 @8dps

This isn't a group where I was tanking either and thus constantly in the front while he whacked it from behind; we were pretty much trading hits to maximize the effect of our fungi tunics - you can see we took about the same total damage, although I took damage faster cause, you know, warriors are better at tanking.

Now I know that I have an Iksar warrior and he's a little weak because of this, and I'm not showing any links for evidence, but I find it really hard to believe monks are supposed to be doing twice the dps of warriors in classic EQ. For example, EQDPM calculator suggests that at 49 with Sarnak Warhammer/Silken Whip of Ensnaring (worse weapons than I was using but it won't let me put wurmslayer in the offhand) I should be doing ~24 dps while my monk friend should be doing ~30 dps . . which would be a significant edge to the monk but overall surprisingly reasonable.

[Dravingar]

What is the warriors haste item?

[isoka]

were you stunned a lot ?
I also guess the war was hitting from front and the monk from the back.

[SyanideGas]

Originally Posted by Dravingar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is the warriors haste item?

Flowing Black Silk Sash

[Dravingar]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On this server monks not only do more damage they also tank better because of avoidance.

Pretty much this and will be this for the life of the server I think the big monk nerf was in late velious or SoL?

Monks are just amazing but once you get a warrior with defensive/evasive you can be useful on raid mobs.

[Nilasbik]

Monk nerf was in Planes of Power. Quote from Sony when the nerf was removed, pulled from monkly business.

Monks



We will be reversing the AC mitigation reduction that you received during the Planes of Power era.

Edit: Side note. Monks are dps class, warriors are not. Warrior dps always sucked.

[Motec]

Ok so you're level 50, your duel wield and double attack skill is f*ck all.

Combined your weapon ratio is .9 or so. The monk is .93.

Formulas
(LVL+Skill)/600 dual wield 200
(LVL+Skill)/500 double attack 205

So at 49, your warrior dual wield is 41.5%
His double attack rate is 50.8%

So immediately your offhand ratio is .22, mainhand .45. So .67 combined ratio compared to the monk's .93 (im talking roughly here, not going into decimal and shit). So automatically the monk is doing 38% more damage than you.

I cant be f*cked typing actually...But suffice to say, your weapons suck arse, his are far better, and you're duel wielding at a level that dual wield provides f*ck all damage increase. His dps does not rely on his offhand and shit double attack/dual wield rates and the stars aligning.

Fact of the matter is, buy a 31/37 staff of battle for cheap, and thats as good as you're going to get if you want to dps. Otherwise you'll always be well behind monks.

[fischsemmel]

Not sure if I should be happy or sad that my 46 bard can chant for 25 dps. Heh.

[Treats]

Different classes use different formulas for Dual Wield and Double Attack.

Monk

Dual Wield% = (Level + Dual Wield Skill) / 400
Double Attack% = (Level + Double Attack Skill) / 500

Warrior

Dual Wield% = (Level + Dual Wield Skill) / 500
Double Attack% = (Level + Double Attack Skill) / 600

[axius]

how do warriors dps?

get the best ratio 2h wep you can afford

keep your hp < 40%