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If you’re just going to generally carp about long wait times for item reimbursements but don’t donate, or just launch baseless accusations of bad behavior by unnamed volunteers, then get ye gone. Given you’ve said you’re toddler-tantrum-style-quitting, I’m not even really sure why you’re still posting on these forums except to badmouth a game you claim you no longer intend to play. | |||
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Calling it “neglectful” is, I suppose, technically correct, but it’s an unfair characterization. We knew the item was around for less than a month during classic, there was a patch one month after Kunark released. Everyone camping the item ~a month after Kunark dropped was HOPING the volunteers made a mistake and left the item in too long. Instead, the volunteers mistakenly didn’t remove the /list and still haven’t found the time to remove it because they’re human people volunteering. As for smugly dismissing, if this weren’t a one-time soul bind item with the only purpose being slightly accelerating ToV raids in a year, maybe I’d be more compassionate. If someone was, say, camping Raster for 70 hours, then a surprise patch caused a bug where he wasn’t spawning, and the devs shrugged and just said “keep camping”, I’d be quite sympathetic for forum-complaints. But camping an item you knew was imminently going to be removed, then being upset because you thought the devs mistakenly left the item in when they just mistakenly left the /list in is....well, not a position I think deserves much more than dismissal. If the guy wants to whine about it and choose to spend his time doing something other than playing p99, more power to him. If others want to drag him for being upset the devs made a different mistake than he was banking on, then that’s our right too! | |||
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Re: the timeline, yeah it was removed earlier in Blue. It stuck around extra long in Green. I’m certain that you’re right that “the list is here so the item must be too” was the reasoning. My contention is: the locket dropping a month after Kunark released would clearly be a mistake. That it was removed *earlier* than a month on Blue and on Live both suggest that, a month in, the locket shouldn’t be there.
The folks camping it thought the devs left the locket in too long (the mistake they wanted) when in fact the devs left the /list on too long (the mistake that actually happened). Again, the locket isn’t some class defining Uber item. It’s a hardcore raider convenience that sells well. Re: sympathy, it truly sucks that this happened, and I do feel bad for the people who got shafted. I do not feel any sympathy at all to venting, raging, hating on the devs, etc. In the other thread on this topic, I got extremely annoyed by the sense of entitlement, “give them all freebies!” This game does mean a lot to a lot of people, myself included! Hating on the devs publicly because you thought they made an exploitable mistake (not removing the item within a month) when instead they made a mistake that hurt you (not removing the /list within a month) is not only counterproductive, but is way more likely to hurt the chances of this weird and wonderful emulator continuing to get care and love from the devs. The volunteers all love this project, and they’re all adults who can handle whine-y forum rants, but I can’t imagine seeing nothing but vitriol posted because people couldn’t exploit things the way they wanted is good for their motivation or enjoyment. No patch notes were released. They should’ve been, we all agree. But why weren’t they? It probably wasn’t malice, that doesn’t make sense, it was probably a sense that they weren’t needed cutting down on the motivation to do it. “Why spend my time writing notes saying we’ve removed all the items that dropped for less than a month during Kunark?” I don’t agree with that logic, but I can understand why a busy person who just did a lot of volunteer work on a project for other people to enjoy might not be able to muster the motivation to take that last step and post saying “this patch just removes all the things that, in our public timeline, should be gone by a month after Kunark. Here’s a long list...” If maintaining this server isn’t rewarding for those doing it, they’ll...stop. They owe us nothing. If it becomes annoying, they probably won’t stop completely, but instead become more and more withdrawn and less and less motivated to do that extra step, especially if anything they do gets them grief. TLDR; I mostly wish the official forums were more like the subreddit, where people seem to post out of joy instead of rage/annoyance/entitlement | ||
Last edited by jadier; 12-20-2020 at 07:46 PM..
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