Monk 1hb vs 2hb

[Zemus]

With the new patch i'm curious how the parses are playing out.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

So i did some testing with western wastes mobs. 60 monk 1367 atk. 81% haste. FoN+BoF (108 dps) vs Abasahi (99 dps).

So looks like 1hb is still better but 2hb got a lot closer. I would be interested to see some comparisons with different weapons/levels and some raid monsters.

Let's see what you got.

[Legidias]

Id assume on raids 1hb will vastly out dps 2hb due to AC minimizing hits, even with 2h upgrades.

[Zemus]

From Tunare today

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Diamondfist(gharns/fon) and Chillwin(fon/bof) are using 1h. Firfisle (abashi) and Raev(abashi) used 2h.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id assume on raids 1hb will vastly out dps 2hb due to AC minimizing hits, even with 2h upgrades.

Weren't mobs meant to have a cap of like 200ac or something until plane of tactics?

[Legidias]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Weren't mobs meant to have a cap of like 200ac or something until plane of tactics?

A mix of higher AC and lvl difference.

Misses are also way more disastrous on DPS for slow 2H than 1H

[monkeydoc]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Misses are also way more disastrous on DPS for slow 2H than 1H

Can anyone explain why this is true? Intuition tells me that missing would have the same impact on both (each individual miss being more lost damage, but the same amount of lost damage over time).

[kjs86z]

Originally Posted by monkeydoc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can anyone explain why this is true? Intuition tells me that missing would have the same impact on both (each individual miss being more lost damage, but the same amount of lost damage over time).

You're right. People just tend to have negativity bias.

The less data you have, the more it will swing (sorry, bad pun) one way or the other.

You need a really large data set to show people that hits and misses wind up being the same.

This whole dual wield vs. 2HB thing is tough to look at without a vacuum to test in.

[Kinaki]

Tunare AC is kind of middle of the road, the effect should be even more pronounced w/ AoW.

[kjs86z]

Can't knock Chillwin's data as long as its accurately parsed.

Although Troxx had an interesting post on damage bonus and 2 handers.

Curious to see what the final result winds up being.


edit: here's a question....were Firfisle and Raev autistically swapping their Abashi's out between swings for fist dmg?

[Zemus]

Originally Posted by kjs86z [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

edit: here's a question....were Firfisle and Raev autistically swapping their Abashi's out between swings for fist dmg?

Test was actually between me and Raev in the same group with the same buffs (bard etc), and yes he was weapon swapping but pulled agro when tank pushed out of range and went splat.

Note: Agro on 2h's has gone WAY up. Off topic, but Warrior epic 2h is probably best (in terms of threat) for tanking now (or Palladius for the 80 ac)