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[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fascism is a rightwing social ideology. It's the idea that people should all be united in a quest for national greatness. 100% of the time this has some theory of ethno-cultural superiority attached to it.

The weak should be culled, the strength of the group is the most important thing. Other people's are a means to an end -- and its legitimate to kill and enslave them if their in your way.

This is conservative socially not liberal socially. So we call this rightwing all over the world.

In this country, rightwing is also associated with economic liberalism. If I say I'm a liberal in Germany, they assume libertarian not some kind of economic leftist.

That's why there is so much confusion about the fascist label. To many Americans, it's a bit counter-intuitive in this country why Hitler would be considered rightwing if he wasn't a market fundamentalist or something. It was because his social stance on German superiority and his Imperial ambitions on behalf of Germans.

The fact that he happened to try to package himself as a socialist (he killed socialist as threat no.1 in reality) or did a few welfare programs (not a leftwing only thing in Germany) is just incidental. Its all a red hearring.

Edit: Stalin was the military dude in Russia that took power when Lenin died. He was very much a conservative socially -- even though ironically he dressed everything he did up in Marxist ideology. Basically, he was the rightwing General in a regime of radical Leninists. Hitler once praised Stalin for successfully creating "Red Fascism" and some people indeed look at it that way. But there are some concrete differences between Germany and Russia in ideology and the way the economy was structured -- so in some contexts it makes less sense to equate Stalin to Fascism. Private property was a thing is Germany -- for example.

This is all considered advanced level political theory because its easy to get bogged down in the weeds.

lol, I was going to parody your post with an infinitely more concise version of the paragraph you amended 😂 whether these righteous left wing machines were infiltrated by malevolent rightwingers or leftwingers is beside the point. They are both authoritarian, none of this is possible absent a robust central authority and that is an inherent consequence of leftist economics.

[rollin5k]

Very advanced .. much weeds..

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Throndor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hillary ran on a platform of global communism. Trump ran on a platform of draining the swamp of Globalist Communists.

this is the part where i knew you're completely bugfuck insane

[Throndor]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chomsky and I both think USSR was Fascist.

America and the USSR just kept calling it communist/socialist...when it clearly wasn't. But most of history is two super powers educating their populations that the USSR was communism and socialism.

So, we're going to fall back on the "true communism just hasn't been realized, yet" argument?

How many hundreds of millions of people still need to die in the "trying"?!

I don't disagree with Chomsky entirely.....I'm just saying what word is defined with "trying something the same way over and over again, and expecting a different results?"

Marxism is an invalid and impossible to actualize political theory. It cannot happen: will not happen; its entirely incompatible with the nature of the universe as well as Human Nature.


Every single time it has ever been attempted with anything more than a small nuclear homogenous tribal unit, it fails. MISERABLY. How is this still being touted as viable by our educational institutions around the world?

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by rollin5k [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Very advanced .. much weeds..


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[Throndor]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this is the part where i knew you're completely bugfuck insane

Irrelevant. You don't have a consistent position.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Throndor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, we're going to fall back on the "true communism just hasn't been realized, yet" argument?

How many hundreds of millions of people still need to die in the "trying"?!

I don't disagree with Chomsky entirely.....I'm just saying what word is defined with "trying something the same way over and over again, and expecting a different results?"

Marxism is an invalid and impossible to actualize political theory. It cannot happen: will not happen; its entirely incompatible with the nature of the universe as well as Human Nature.


Every single time it has ever been attempted with anything more than a small nuclear homogenous tribal unit, it fails. MISERABLY. How is this still being touted as viable by our educational institutions around the world?

it could be enforced by the machines

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Throndor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Irrelevant. You don't have a consistent position.

wonkie is extraordinarily consistent.

[rollin5k]

Too many retarded lazy slobs (communists) for communism to ever work

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wonkie is extraordinarily consistent.

Lol no he isn't