P99 Sky Agreement - why its bad for the server

[Jokesteve]

Originally Posted by Rainik Stormseeker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could always just ask if you could join their raid(s)?

Atmas response to this pretty much nailed why this is not a valid solution for anyone that is not within the player made agreement that wants to raid with their guild in sky.

[Holyhawk]

Originally Posted by Jokesteve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Atmas response to this pretty much nailed why this is not a valid solution for anyone that is not within the player made agreement that wants to raid with their guild in sky.

No, actually it didn't.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Jokesteve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Atmas response to this pretty much nailed why this is not a valid solution for anyone that is not within the player made agreement that wants to raid with their guild in sky.

Which guilds are those? Beyond Rivervale Vanguard.

[Lojik]

Why it's bad for the server or why it's bad for you?

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why it's bad for the server or why it's bad for you?

When he says it is 'bad for the server', he has clarified that to mean 'bad for the guilds who are capable and willing to do Sky, don't have an existing PM slot and aren't able to do AM'.

At the moment no one has mentioned any guild names, so basically the point is hypothetical people's experience is more important than actual players.

Perhaps he is saying how much more popular the server would be, and how many more guilds there would be if it wasn't for the sky rotation.

That is the logical conclusion I can pull out of this.

[sereal]

Couldn't we just have a process in place that every X period of time we do a /random and pick a new rotation so new guilds or guilds without a slot can have a chance at getting one?

Alternatively have a rule that any forks in a guild without a slot MUST be allowed to attend any sky raid and roll?

Seems like the core problem is that if you don't have a sky slot there isn't a obvious process to get one. Just because you're a farm crew doesn't mean you don't deserve a equal opportunity.

[MagpieRockyl]

sky... it really sucks

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by sereal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seems like the core problem is that if you don't have a sky slot there isn't a obvious process to get one. Just because you're a farm crew doesn't mean you don't deserve a equal opportunity.

There’s a very obvious process to get one. There are three open slots. Pick one. Or go and kill mobs during one of those open times. Don’t like the fact it doesn’t fit your play schedule? I don’t like that every major raid mob in the game has a 16 hour window.

This entire thread is a disingenuous attempt to help people that want to sell and bottleneck epic pieces and rare sky drops. Name *one* guild that wants to do sky regularly that doesn’t get to do so - I haven’t seen a name yet.

And I have also seen zero evidence that unnamed guild has taken any affirmative steps to ask any other guild to tag along in order to do sky.

No one is saying that farm crews don’t “deserve” an equal opportunity, but the entire argument is disingenuous and has been framed as a way of helping people when it’s BS as far as I can tell.

[Canelek]

Another reason is Sky is horribly boring and time consuming. A rotation is great so folks can get in and do the needful, so to speak. Haste and epic parts are too valuable to not hit sky up regularly.

That said, the last thing this server needs is an opportunity for a farm crew to further bottleneck things.

Player agreements sometimes are the only way to enforce civility. Also, yeah sky rotation is classic for many.

[Jauna]

I think its time to say fuck it and form one mega guild or have GM forced rotations. Punishment for breaking the rotation is having your pixels deleted, start with epics and move on down