Casual TLP

[Coridan]

Valheim is considered by many to be the best game of 2021, corpse runs are a major part of the game.

Corpse runs and forced a gameplay loop that incentivizes grouping is what makes EQ stand above modern MMOs. No one makes friends playing SWTOR.

[Gustoo]

Procedurally generated is always bad.

But corpse runs are good

[Graahle]

TLP > P99 all day now.

Not even a comparison. Velious most overrated expansion ever and you're stuck in it? Take the goggles off people.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by socialist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the most part, there isn't any true P2W on TLPs. You can definitely buy a lot of convenience, though. What you can't generally buy is something better than what can be obtained through playing the game (with the exception of 40-slot 100% bags.) Most of it is cosmetics and some consumables that are worse than (and don't stack with) conventional buffs. It's just that having a clarity potion running 24/7 is way more convenient than having to go get KEI cast on you every two hours. And there are of course XP potions, but at the end of the day, XP is just XP. Everyone can level just fine without one.

But where the RMT really stands out is kronos. It has become the main currency of the game. You can buy them from players for plat so it's not as if you're locked out of the economy just because you don't buy kronos from Daybreak, but you will definitely be expected to use kronos to buy anything remotely expensive. Or at least abide by the fluctuations of the krono exchange rate. And since you can buy unlimited kronos from Daybreak, people willing to spend RL cash get to have all the tradeable stuff they want while those trying to play without RMT will find that the prices are prohibitively high because some are able to throw $100 at an item.

Like when Kunark launches on a server, the first many fungi tunics are all basically reserved for rich idiots willing to spend bizarre amounts just to have a fungi tunic early, so when it comes to high-demand items, a "legit" player is sidelined until all the sons of oligarchs have had theirs first. There will be things that a regular player can't buy until a good while into an expansion because things will be too expensive until the demand of the whales is met across the server. For instance, elemental bows start out costing obscene amounts when PoP launches, and then the price drops off a cliff the moment there are no more trust fund kids who need one. But this can take a few weeks.

You can play TLPs for free, however, by farming stuff and selling them for kronos and trading these in for game time. It's just that if you do this, on top of not buying any to supplement your in-game finances, you will have very little spending power in-game and would struggle to buy anything expensive unless you're a farming god.

So it's a kronos-based economy, not a plat-based economy?

I'm not willing to sink that kind of money into a 23 year old game lol.

[Graahle]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it's a kronos-based economy, not a plat-based economy?

I'm not willing to sink that kind of money into a 23 year old game lol.

It's not.

But y'all are perfectly okay with paying 70k for fungis, 6k for SCD's, 23k for CoTH, etc. lmao

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it's a kronos-based economy, not a plat-based economy?

Plat = Krono and Krono = Plat. They're essentially the same thing. The exchange rate fluctuates over the life of the server but it's just another form of currency that can typically be exchanged back and forth with minimal effort.

[socialist]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it's a kronos-based economy, not a plat-based economy?

I'm not willing to sink that kind of money into a 23 year old game lol.

Kronos and plat are interchangable. You can almost just think of them as dollars vs. euros. If you have a certain amount of A, you have whatever sum that exchanges into in B. You just have to make the exchange. There are websites that show the exact exchange rate of plat to kronos on a daily fluctuation. People buy and sell kronos for plat all day long, much like any financial institute would.

But big trades are generally done in kronos. If you're buying an expensive item from someone, they'll quote you a price in kronos. They might accept plat after checking precisely how much plat is equivalent to the amount of kronos they wanted, but the economy does revolve around kronos. Plat is just a parallel currency that you can actually earn by playing the game.

Since you can buy kronos from other players, you can just farm plat and exchange it for kronos. These can be used to renew your subscription, which is essentially why they have any value at all. It's like gold backing the physical currency. One krono = 1 month's subscription, so they can be thought of as worth about $15 or whatever it costs per month, I haven't actually checked in a while. They also cost something like that if you buy them from Daybreak, though you can buy in bulk with a discount.

Last time I played on a TLP, one krono was like 10k plat, so it's not as if you can just kill four mobs and buy one of them. But it's not an insurmountable figure, either. It's just that since any idiot can just go and buy twenty kronos, anything desirable ends up being pretty expensive.

But this means that any moron can just buy 20 kronos from Daybreak and get any item they want, which means things cost a lot when they first enter the market as rich people can outspend anyone who has to actually earn their wealth.

[Jibartik]

Kronos and plat are interchangable.

I played mischife because I wanted to try live, and do some raiding for a few weeks, and sold all my krono when velious was over and made a proffit counting the sub fee and literally played lie 1-2hrs a night at most. (im sure I played for 8hrs a night for at least half of those nights you know how it is)

[Jimjam]

I think I am pretty dedicated to EQ, but often fail to make more than 3 ~2 hour sessions per week, so i’m not sure about the claims that 5hrs/ week is super casual.

[Jibartik]

I enjoy the social aspect of MMOs so much that I try to avoid them it's so addictive for me, I mean the forums I know I appreciate for the same reasons, it's an extension of the late night group chat and I love it.