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If they bring in more players to contest, then those players are not somewhere else in the game world. If it only normally takes 1 or 2 people to claim a camp, but they instead need 5 or 6 to out-DPS the typical competition, then those extra 4-5 people are not out farming somewhere else or leveling up an alt. 5-6 min/max DPS characters won't win either if a guild decides to "mini-raid" the camp and push them out. Like I talked about before, competition would be fluid, as there will always be the option to bring in more numbers to initially fight over a camp, but if people are dedicating that many characters to a single camp in the game, then they are inherently losing time/presence elsewhere. So the numbers each "faction" has at a camp will continually change, and when their numbers dwindle after tiring of fighting or thinking they are safe, then even a casual group would have the opportunity to move in and win the camp for a period of time.
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Yeah casuals still lose in that situation so negative comprehension is still on your side of the table mate
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Originally Posted by Detoxx View Post I tried my hand at rotating with the casuals. It was at this point I decided to no longer be kind to the casuals as they have extreme short term memory. They did this to themselves, unfortunately. Quote: Originally Posted by Maner View Post No one in A/A cares that you aren't getting pixels. In fact after the last suspension wave the attitude is to stop letting the casual guilds get anything even remotely of value. | ||
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For instance newer players without enough friends yet to hold even lower lvl camps (remember this is a 10 year old server) or for higher lvl camps everyone thats not in a guild gettng the best dps weps/most amount of warmbodies to fill camps will almost always be on the losing side of dps war.
Not to mention lvl 60s farming noob zones because they “outdps” and ruin everyone of appropriate levels fun.
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Originally Posted by Detoxx View Post I tried my hand at rotating with the casuals. It was at this point I decided to no longer be kind to the casuals as they have extreme short term memory. They did this to themselves, unfortunately. Quote: Originally Posted by Maner View Post No one in A/A cares that you aren't getting pixels. In fact after the last suspension wave the attitude is to stop letting the casual guilds get anything even remotely of value. | ||
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Well you are certainly enthusiastic in the face of adversity.
As such I award you one month of no PNP on green. Obviously CSR is still free to make their own decisions free of PNP guidance as live. In other news I award Loramin 1 month of rotations on blue. | ||
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I never said casuals would win an equal amount of the time in every situation, I said they would have opportunities to compete. Having a chance is better than having none. Quote:
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Did you guys know that PNP is not enforced on DBG's official TLP servers? It was very noticeable up until the opening of the Phini server which introduced instances for old world content.
Basically it meant that the raid scene reverted to a big perpetual DPS race, and you found yourself waiting for hours on end with several other guild for a raid target to spawn, trying to KS each other. I've personally waited in Trak lair for hours with about 200 other characters form a variety of guilds. You can find videos on the tube of VS dying 1/10th of a sec after he spawns. Interestingly enough, the dungeons/ grouping scene was largely unaffected. People seemed to... play nice with each others. | ||
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Even if you're right about claasic 99 eq having no pnp Zura, 95% of the eq player base doesnt remember it that way. I feel like Rogean and Co want to recreate that classic 'feeling' more than be strictly classic (look at all the unclassic changes they made) and the majority of the EQ/p99 player base remembers camp rules and not dps races. P99 already deals with enough toxicity from players....removing pnp policy in favor for dps racing is like throwing gasoline on a dumpster fire.
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But the point has to do with the weapons and spells available, how certain classes would dominate more than they already do. If, for instance, a Ranger was awarded Oakwynd from a GM event, they would garunteed win every DPS race 1v1, not only that but the same could be said for their group and probably their guild. An extreme example, but still. Quote:
Having said all of this, there are aspects of the PNP that are similar to social niceties and political (over)correctness which can make interactions feel more predictable than ones with quest NPCs. | ||||||
Last edited by Ennewi; 08-15-2019 at 06:13 AM..
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PnP isnt going anywhere, get over it or move on simple as that.
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