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Old 06-20-2021, 06:04 AM
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Old 06-20-2021, 06:23 AM
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Seems like a lot of angry nerds. Training a guild after wiping with sufficient evidence; denying said train with fraps then crying on forums after killing mob. Looks good to me.

No one really wins Everquest holds true every time. It's like the only game where you can win something(or nothing at all) and still have regrets or drama days later.
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Old 06-20-2021, 06:32 AM
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So, somebody didn't cycle camp? or what happened? that was pretty far agro no ?
Yea how did those vulak guards get in there? That was weird
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Old 06-20-2021, 07:02 AM
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So, somebody didn't cycle camp? or what happened? that was pretty far agro no ?
If you watch the first video posted on the UN. You can clearly see Klaz (No visible name-plate but lines up with corpse screenshot) A feigned death dark elf wearing a robe at Xx:31 seconds. Gotta freeze frame it a cpl times to see it.

Logs shows him casting shortly afterwards which implies he stood up. Recasted FD as a green drake made it over the ramp and it had a new aggro message.

There was no new aggro messages on the flurries, glimmers, or drakes because the drake's AoE broke Klaz's new FD. Hence all the Vulak Flurries went straight for him(and low hp aggro) and everything else went for sitting players. Towards the end of the video you can actually see a dark elf die at around 1 minute in (Klaz) then new aggro messages being sent out.
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Old 06-20-2021, 07:12 AM
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Seems like a lot of angry nerds. Training a guild after wiping with sufficient evidence; denying said train with fraps then crying on forums after killing mob. Looks good to me.
What sufficient evidence? All the videos you guys posted show a train coming in and killing a bunch of your members first, an assist on the train being on a member of your raid, and a person in your voice chat saying that you guys should have cycled camp and that some people didn't.

If anything, you guys should concede the next Vulak for crying wolf. It's disingenuous and manipulative to message another guild that you have evidence of being trained by them when you don't.

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No one really wins Everquest holds true every time. It's like the only game where you can win something(or nothing at all) and still have regrets or drama days later.
I'd say we won at Everquest today, we killed Vulak and Tunare and had fun doing it. No regerts here. Maybe for you it feels like no one really wins EQ because you guys win so rarely. I'm guessing it's not as fun constantly being on the losing side? I wouldn't know.
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Old 06-20-2021, 07:15 AM
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I encourage everyone to go look at the videos for themselves. All 3 have a piece of the puzzle hidden in them. . Goes forward 1 frame and , goes back. Don't believe anyone else. Go look for yourself.

Pro tip: sync the audio to correlate what happens in one video to the events of the other. FD takes 1.5 seconds to cast!
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Old 06-20-2021, 07:22 AM
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Also gonna post this for posterity and lols...from runyan's fraps around the 1:20 mark shortly after we wiped:

"Kickenit tells Runyan: A gift from the gods
Runyan tells Kickenit: and were going to blow it"

Gotta love the confidence! =D
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Old 06-20-2021, 07:32 AM
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In voice:

Jutebox: "Cycle camp since those mobs got so close up here...I would hate to see them come up here"

As train comes in:
"We should have cycled!"
"Apparently not everybody did"
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Old 06-20-2021, 07:35 AM
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In voice:

Jutebox: "Cycle camp since those mobs got so close up here...I would hate to see them come up here"

As train comes in:
"We should have cycled!"
"Apparently not everybody did"
Klaz wasnt in our coms, at least dont think he was. He should have cycled
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Old 06-20-2021, 07:47 AM
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Klaz wasnt in our coms, at least dont think he was. He should have cycled
How can you be so obtuse? Is it deliberate?

Clearly the point is that members of your raid were aware that your raid was in social range of the mobs and should have cycled camp, but didn't.
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