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Old 08-30-2022, 08:03 PM
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This was actually super difficult and I find myself disagreeing with myself on a lot of points but this was my first gut impression.
Was nice you started with a breakdown per era! You'll have to do a final ballot still [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I thought to maybe average the scores you gave for each era, but there would be many ties, so that doesn't work.

I would say you overrated Ranger a lot for Kunark though. That era where their skillcaps lag behind and they have no disciplines and no increased spellpower relative to 1999, and still saddled with exp penalty, is very rough for them.

One thing regarding Mage, I put them as slightly better in Velious than Kunark because CotH and Mod Rod become a lot more powerful there. They are also able to make their pet immune to fear in Velious, which is significant, since bosses that feared would always land it on pets.
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Old 08-30-2022, 08:21 PM
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Necro master class

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Old 08-30-2022, 11:01 PM
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Necro master class

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Necros seem so fuckin cool to me thematically, mechanically, I love the skeleton pets, I love the dots, I love the life drain, I love fear kiting and the lich line, and I cannot for the life of me get past like...level 20 on a necromancer without wanting to blow my brains out.

Maybe its because I keep going iksar, I just kinda hate staying in field of bone that long, maybe I'll try a DE or something.
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Old 08-30-2022, 11:21 PM
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Necros seem so fuckin cool to me thematically, mechanically, I love the skeleton pets, I love the dots, I love the life drain, I love fear kiting and the lich line, and I cannot for the life of me get past like...level 20 on a necromancer without wanting to blow my brains out.

Maybe its because I keep going iksar, I just kinda hate staying in field of bone that long, maybe I'll try a DE or something.
I only played necro on live but they have a few diff ways to kill. Could always try mixing things up with charming UD!
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Old 08-31-2022, 12:15 AM
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Necros seem so fuckin cool to me thematically, mechanically, I love the skeleton pets, I love the dots, I love the life drain, I love fear kiting and the lich line, and I cannot for the life of me get past like...level 20 on a necromancer without wanting to blow my brains out.

Maybe its because I keep going iksar, I just kinda hate staying in field of bone that long, maybe I'll try a DE or something.
Or you could like... Go somewhere else with your iksar and not gimp yourself?
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Old 08-31-2022, 04:34 AM
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Necros seem so fuckin cool to me thematically, mechanically, I love the skeleton pets, I love the dots, I love the life drain, I love fear kiting and the lich line, and I cannot for the life of me get past like...level 20 on a necromancer without wanting to blow my brains out.

Maybe its because I keep going iksar, I just kinda hate staying in field of bone that long, maybe I'll try a DE or something.
what?

kurns is like...the best low level dungeon ever and super convenient to lizardpeepul main city
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Old 08-31-2022, 11:21 AM
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Was nice you started with a breakdown per era! You'll have to do a final ballot still [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I thought to maybe average the scores you gave for each era, but there would be many ties, so that doesn't work.

I would say you overrated Ranger a lot for Kunark though. That era where their skillcaps lag behind and they have no disciplines and no increased spellpower relative to 1999, and still saddled with exp penalty, is very rough for them.

One thing regarding Mage, I put them as slightly better in Velious than Kunark because CotH and Mod Rod become a lot more powerful there. They are also able to make their pet immune to fear in Velious, which is significant, since bosses that feared would always land it on pets.
Yeah no it was hard. Reading through my list I still find areas where I want to throw down and bicker/argue … with myself lol

I think on the whole it paints a clear picture.

For the classes ranked lower … I don’t find them independently weak at all. Not bad classes. Across the board I think the classes are fairly well balanced for a game with so many classes you can play while still maintaining uniqueness to each class. Everquest did a good job. Balance got better in Luclin with specific aa’s helping to lift up the struggling classes and fill some gaps
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Old 08-31-2022, 03:09 PM
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what?

kurns is like...the best low level dungeon ever and super convenient to lizardpeepul main city
I know, but I've done it like 4000 fuckin times and my eyes glaze over in boredom. That and I kinda hate the hassle of having to go back to Cab to train/pickup spells. DE sounds more fun this go around.
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Old 08-31-2022, 03:45 PM
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I know, but I've done it like 4000 fuckin times and my eyes glaze over in boredom. That and I kinda hate the hassle of having to go back to Cab to train/pickup spells. DE sounds more fun this go around.
I went human eyepatch. Fucking loved it. I charmed unrest in the 20s to mid 30s, very easy. Then eventually kaesora where you master the craft. Once you get lich at 49 and bond of death lawl it’s gg. Then splurt and deflux come and you just destroy everything. Their heal at 54 can pretty much main heal most groups. Just so fuckin good it was stupidly unfair. I did have a zheart but eventually at 49 I don’t think it’s necessary between bond of death and deflux and eventually vex it’s a total joke to get health back and you’re gaining mana like crazy without needing to tap everything/canni yourself to carpal tunnel
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Old 09-01-2022, 12:04 PM
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I went human eyepatch. Fucking loved it. I charmed unrest in the 20s to mid 30s, very easy. Then eventually kaesora where you master the craft. Once you get lich at 49 and bond of death lawl it’s gg. Then splurt and deflux come and you just destroy everything. Their heal at 54 can pretty much main heal most groups. Just so fuckin good it was stupidly unfair. I did have a zheart but eventually at 49 I don’t think it’s necessary between bond of death and deflux and eventually vex it’s a total joke to get health back and you’re gaining mana like crazy without needing to tap everything/canni yourself to carpal tunnel
Finally looked up what a z-heart is, jesus christ.

I started up a DE Necro this morning, that path sounds pretty fun, I've never actually been to Kaesora.

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