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Old 11-05-2019, 01:28 PM
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why have a warrior if they have to have someone root the mob
Why have a healer if they have to have someone tank the mob? Grouping is about team work. Support CCs, which includes helping the warrior ensures tanking with root, healer heals tank, dps kills the tabked mob.

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I feel like the root thing is only going to stop the mob from attacking ranged players at the top of the list but doesnt quite fix the problem of low threat generation warriors.
As explained rooted mobs attack the closest player. The warrior can use positioning to ensure he gets attacked. During this time of guaranteed aggro he can use the taunt ability whoch will put him to the highest spot on the mob's aggro totem.

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At what point does warrior auto attack (dual wield, double/triple attack, crit) and kicking start to overcome paladins flash/stuns threat wise? If it was an issue of dps has to not begin attacking for 15 seconds or so the warrior can build up to the same amount a paladin could cause with a flash/stun i guess i would understand that but that seems unrealistic in practice?
Never.
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Old 11-05-2019, 01:32 PM
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Warriors generate way more swing aggro than paladins. Also the rogue would have to tank some/backstab less.

Warriors also desire the main tank mob to be rooted; that way they can keep aggro by standing closest.

Even better for a warrior is the MT target to be rooted (allowing tippy toe tank) and then someone cast a high aggro spell like slow (the warrior then gets 30 seconds of root tippy toe tanking to try taunt up over the slow aggro, using that succesful taunt as a piggyback to greatly surpass the aggro of other melee).
This.

Rooted mobs attack the closest person regardless of hate list. Taunt, when successful, moves you to the top of the mobs hate list, regardless of how big the disparity is between the taunter's current aggro vs. the person with the most generated aggro.

Root mob. Have a caster hit the mob with 1 or 2 high hate spells. Have warrior taunt, taunt, taunt. If successful, the warrior will have much higher aggro comparatively to the other melee when root breaks and should be able to hold it.
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:23 PM
Gattssu Gattssu is offline
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I feel like people under estimate the threat component on weapons with stun procs like the SSOY. Huge threat bonus on those procs.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:35 AM
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What are you talking about? SSoY is the BiS aggro item in classic, and well known for it.
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Old 11-12-2019, 06:24 PM
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What are you talking about? SSoY is the BiS aggro item in classic, and well known for it.
Exactly what i'm saying, so why are we sitting here scratching our heads about if a duel wield class that can rock two of those bad boys is going to be able to hold threat?
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Old 11-13-2019, 08:22 AM
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Reread the first post of the thread for context.

He mentions the ride 1-40.

I suspect he is considering the pre SSOY levels.

Sadly warriors don't just start with level 37, FBSS and 2x SSoY.
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Old 11-13-2019, 08:34 AM
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Don’t forget to Beg! It adds a decent chunk of aggro too
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:46 PM
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1-40?? That shits lord of the flies with murder hobos just beating orcs, dogs and frogs to death with sticks... that shit dont count
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Old 11-13-2019, 05:21 PM
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Dex focused warrior worth it on green? For leveling in particular
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Old 11-13-2019, 05:23 PM
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levelling lol no. In velious with lvl 1 procs that do decent damage sure, but there arent any easily accessible significant low level procs in classic.
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