How did they get this game so right?

[magnetaress]

I never did. I made friends. Lol.

[Tushy_master]

Originally Posted by Tushy_master [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They didn't antiicpateexpect "raiding" or camping to be a thing.

I meant to write they didn’t anticipate raiding (with large numbers of people) to be a thing. In an interview I watched with a game designer, he said they were blown away by everyone’s ability to organize in large groups to kill Cazic Thule when PoF was released.

It just shows how much they didn’t really know things would turn out with emergent game play, but they turned out fine.

[Tushy_master]

Originally Posted by BigPlays [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While I think they nailed a lot of things, for a game with quest in its name, I spent way more time camping than questing. You would think that many of the items you would get would be done by questing for it like they did with Sol Ro Armor. The game technically was an open beta for a while IMO

This is an excellent point, something I forgot to add in my OP. Questing seems like somewhat of an afterthought which is indeed kind of funny considering the title of the game. But to Evia’s point I think it kind of worked out. It naturally put a larger emphasis on grouping with others for EXP and items, which IMO is the very core of what makes this game so great.

[Tnair]

they were able to succeed because the market was so small. Blizzard and Tencent execs these days talk about how a game is dead with "only" ten thousand players online ... investors are now interested in propping up naked cash grab casino machines with a thin veneer of Fantasy, and those games eat up the available marketing and funding. the early mmo era ultimately failed as a business which is why theyre all run as nostalgia theme parks with cash shops, and why new games are just gacha slot machines that run on auto play. similar to why big budget movies suck today: the industry has developed out of the hands of weirdos making labors of love, and into the hands of tech bro make-a-quick-buck brand management people

[magnetaress]

Blizzard finely destroyed themselves forever. The only ppl they have left are the gambling addicted and the elf larpers who are only slightly less gambling addicted cuz they never grind past lfr ilvl (smart imo because M+ is a massive shit show) and raiding has been distilled into a very empty zergfest which is gated by ilvls and itemsets and programmable macros.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blizzard finely destroyed themselves forever. The only ppl they have left are the gambling addicted and the elf larpers who are only slightly less gambling addicted cuz they never grind past lfr ilvl (smart imo because M+ is a massive shit show) and raiding has been distilled into a very empty zergfest which is gated by ilvls and itemsets and programmable macros.

All of which is precisely time gated and requires weekly participation to not fall behind and carries are kinda only for the AoTC achievement and weekly vault so u can get quickly added and kicked based on ur IO.


The life is out of the game ppl don't even talk to eachother anymore or hangout. They just look at #s and kick or silently requeue.

Free speech is so destroyed u will get an automated ban for gently trying to coach summone

[azeth]

Eq's itemization until around PoP is probably the best in gaming history. For me, that's what separates it from other MMOs - they absolutely perfected the carrot on the stick.

You can tell exactly what somebody is wearing, know where they got it, know what it took to get it, and probably even guess what guild they're in just by their appearance without inspecting them

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by Tushy_master [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It had to be luck right? Or was Brad a genius?

They were basically just ripping of DnD and MUDs. But so many other mmorpgs sucked ass.

Let me fix that for you...

How did he get this game so right and yet at the same time so wrong?

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let me fix that for you...

More importantly, why.

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by Tushy_master [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It had to be luck right? Or was Brad a genius?

They were basically just ripping of DnD and MUDs. But so many other mmorpgs sucked ass.

Yeah that was it, EQ exists because of pure luck.

He woke up and flipped a coin...

"Heads I have the creative IQ to create EQ, tails I don't."

Obviously heads won.

He lost the coin toss on staying alive though which is bad luck.