Not soloing a /list for someone else

[turbosilk]

Everyone on list should be helping. Don't be that person that doesn't help.

[uygi]

Originally Posted by galach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are #1 on the list you need to assist. We will start removing people if they sit there afk for hours upon end without helping. Please petition going forward.

I appreciate the intent, but am concerned for implementation. Let’s say I’m a melee, I’m bound a 20 minute run from the /list camp, and I can’t safely solo the mob but duo/trio would be fine.

I’m #1. I don’t want to die, because then I start all over. I don’t want to engage cus I don’t want to die. #2 has every incentive to either let me die, or petition me for not engaging.

The whole thing should be governed by the /list mechanics IMO. Remove petitions and everything completely. Maybe /list needs an adjustment, I don’t know, but the whole damn point of the mechanic is to set some rigid criteria dictating who gets what, when and how.

If #1 can be petitioned and removed for not contributing to the kill(s), can #2 and #3 be petitioned and removed for refusing to contribute?

[Octopath]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about people #1 on list who are willing to help kill it but the people behind them refuse to assist because they want to get #1 kicked off the list? I'm guessing if you are #1 on list you need to keep logs now to prove you were willing to assist for this inevitable GM situation.

He said if you sit afk for hours. So I’d imagine if you are present at the pc and trying to get a group or help to keep the camp going, the gm wouldn’t kick you. You aren’t just sitting there afk waiting for someone else. I hope I am right in this

[Erati]

This was a concern of mine when this was still in Beta being tested

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=224

in general I wager if the #1 person on the list is mostly AFK/underleveled - theres no incentive for anyone else to help him and could simply let the room spawn killing him so the list moves up.

Scout is somewhat a server rule, and at least initially Listed items have no ruleset encouraging you to help - its actually the opposite.

[ccs88]

I camped Jboots and said the other people could kill everything for exp. You're there doing afk checks anyway. Who cares. Be thankful /list even exists.

[ccs88]

Originally Posted by ccs88 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I camped Jboots and said the other people could kill everything for exp. You're there doing afk checks anyway. Who cares. Be thankful /list even exists.

It also makes the camp go exponentially faster. You don't want to sit there while a druid root/rots every spawn do you?

[Kirdan]

If you're #1 and worried that #2 and #3 won't help when you engage, it sounds like you need to find some help to do the camp. It's not the responsibility of #2 and #3 to help you. It's cool if they do, but this isn't scout roll. You shouldn't /list unless you can either solo it or bring your own help to clear it.

[derpcake2]

my halfling warrior is 34, looking forward to queuing for 70 hours while afk

see you at EE

[azeth]

The best idea i've read is to randomly give loot rights to every list member #1-#6 or so. Not always to #1

[Kirdan]

I agree that adding some random component to those on the list is the best solution I've seen. I like weighting the roll to those who have been there longest though. More time put in = better chance you win, and everyone on the list is incentivized to help keep it clear.