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Old 03-18-2023, 02:44 AM
Vanessa Vanessa is offline
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Default Shaman for killing guards / vendor loot farming?

I know that Necro and Mages are kind of the best for killing greens / lower level mobs like guards or mobs inside Droga, stuff that drops FS weapons or nice vendor loot.

But I was wondering, how well can Shamans do that?

I'm considering making a Shaman and would like to get it to 60 and use it as a main character that farms and makes money with etc. However, I also know it will be a long time before lvl 60, and even longer time before I can afford things like a Fungi Tunic or Torpor etc.

So I'm wondering what if it would be better to first make a Mage or Necro and use that to farm myself a lot of plat through vendor loot camps? Or if an undergeared Shaman can farm plat camps pretty well also?

I always see people mentioning that Shamans and Enchanters are the best farming characters in the game. But whenever Shaman is mentioned, its like an end-game character Shaman that already has 100's of hours of playtime into it.

So I'm curious what they're like in the 45-55 level range, without all the expensive spells and gear?
What are options do they have for making money?
Would a Necro or Mage of the same level just blow a Shaman out of the water in regards to making plat?
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Old 03-18-2023, 08:59 AM
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If you focused on leveling off guards you can make quite a bit while leveling up. I don't see why some /pet attack and JBB spamming couldn't make pretty solid money in a place like Droga at level 60.

It sorta makes sense to roll a necro/mage to fund a melee character, it makes a lot less sense to do that to fund another caster, especially one that already solos well.
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Old 03-18-2023, 12:09 PM
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They farm guards just fine,they kill a bit slower than mages or necros.
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Old 03-18-2023, 01:01 PM
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If you're a Barbarian or Iksar, see https://wiki.project1999.com/Hunting_in_Grobb. Each guard drops a sword worth 10p or so (plus possibly a 1p shield, a 1p neck, and/or FS or gems), and an appropriately-leveled Shaman can not only farm it, they can get XP while doing so.

Evil shaman can probably do Barbarian/Dwarf/Elf/Human guards instead, but I don't know the details (the wiki has an evil shaman guide that's really good though).
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Old 03-18-2023, 03:03 PM
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I know that Necro and Mages are kind of the best for killing greens / lower level mobs like guards or mobs inside Droga, stuff that drops FS weapons or nice vendor loot.

But I was wondering, how well can Shamans do that?

I'm considering making a Shaman and would like to get it to 60 and use it as a main character that farms and makes money with etc. However, I also know it will be a long time before lvl 60, and even longer time before I can afford things like a Fungi Tunic or Torpor etc.

So I'm wondering what if it would be better to first make a Mage or Necro and use that to farm myself a lot of plat through vendor loot camps? Or if an undergeared Shaman can farm plat camps pretty well also?

I always see people mentioning that Shamans and Enchanters are the best farming characters in the game. But whenever Shaman is mentioned, its like an end-game character Shaman that already has 100's of hours of playtime into it.

So I'm curious what they're like in the 45-55 level range, without all the expensive spells and gear?
What are options do they have for making money?
Would a Necro or Mage of the same level just blow a Shaman out of the water in regards to making plat?
Shamans are fine, but enchanters can do it better and for much cheaper.
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Old 03-18-2023, 07:23 PM
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They don’t kill really weak greens as quick. Anything with close to 4k hps though mages struggle to keep that speed up.

In droga probably open with pox, root, epic. Tab and do another like that. Line up like 10 and canni/torp back mana for another round. The pet (imho) doesn’t do much except require babysitting. Maybe I’m wrong there but after playing the mage that dog pet loses some of the sparkle.

A mid 40’s mage or necro in HK can make solid money off fine steel. Ench’s do pretty good too. I like my shaman but except a few camps a well played enchanter is so much better. They do ok in Droga but a pet class is boringly easy. The mage can even make a ton of 10 slot 100% WR bags.
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Old 03-20-2023, 12:21 PM
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The pet is important for finishing low-HP mobs off without spending more mana, unless you already have a JBB, and it sounds like OP doesn't have that. It's really inefficient to have to spend mana to deal a few hundred damage, and it's also annoying as fuck to have to memorize low-level nukes or whatever every time it happens.

Shaman is alright at grinding guards, but if you don't already have the important stuff (JBB and epic at least), it's definitely less effective than necro/chanter and possibly even mage. Shaman dots and nukes have poor mana efficiency and the dots tend to break root, so it's not a very comfortable experience, nor does tanking mobs make sense before you have JBB.
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Old 03-22-2023, 01:53 PM
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If you're smart you can easily have the money for torpor by the time you hit 60.
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Old 03-22-2023, 04:34 PM
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Not easily. Back on blue, I leveled almost exclusively off of high-plat stuff like guards and giants from like 30 to 55ish when there were no longer guards that gave good XP, and did the rest in Sebilis and Chardok groups where you get the occasional sellable drop. It yielded something like 30-40k cash in total. Unless you do the last several levels on green guards, or land a lucky high-value item against all odds during leveling , you're not gonna have enough for Torpor when you hit 60. And that's without taking into account the other spells that you really need to buy if you don't want to be some totally useless shaman who has Torpor and nothing else. What are you gonna do at 60 with no Bane, Pox, epic or JBB, and garbage gear?

Torpor is like 50k on green now. If you went to incredible lengths to squeeze every platinum piece out of the leveling experience, you might have almost enough for Torpor when you hit 60, provided you spent literally nothing on anything at all. That's certainly not what anyone could call "easily." And anytime prior to several years into Velious, the price of Torpor is more like 70k.

Epic you could conceivably get for free in a guild, but unless you're already an established member, it's not as if you'll just be handed it as a matter of course. And if you don't have epic, I would venture to say that Pox/Bane do more for your soloing capacity than Torpor does and should be purchased first.
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Old 03-22-2023, 10:06 PM
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All that to say that while Torpor is really nice, it's not actually that useful if you don't have any of the other shit as well. If you don't have at least epic, it's not like Torpor really helps you all that much. I would buy a Child's Tear MQ before I buy Torpor, if I wasn't in a guild where I could get one the normal way (the rest of the epic is really easy and shouldn't be bought). JBB you can live without, mind you, and Malo as well if you're not trying to solo dragons or some shit. You can live without Bane/Pox if you have epic, but if you have none of them, you're kind of toothless. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to buy Torpor as your first big thing unless you know you're gonna get your epic pretty soon afterwards. At this point in the server's lifespan, I think you'd be more likely to loot Torpor off a mob than loot a Child's Tear if you're in a guild that isn't decidedly non-endgame, so while a tear MQ would probably cost more than Torpor does, I'd prioritize it first.
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