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[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who makes 10 million a year? I'm guessing its a great guy that is not at all selfish and corrupt right? definately deserves all that money

this commie fundamentalist thinks that poor youths are not capable of violence, but anyone who makes 10 million dollars is a corrupt criminal.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this commie fundamentalist thinks that poor youths are not capable of violence, but anyone who makes 10 million dollars is a corrupt criminal.

All I said is stupid to be afraid of antifa. It is.

SC won't even admit he is scared of antifa...because hes not. Because it would be retarded to be.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why wouldn’t a state work that way? Do you think janitors generate profits? Necessity doesn’t imply importance, and there is limited occupancy in Valhalla

IDK -- its the other group of poors that are sold on this idea that america doesn't work that way and its some kind of meritocracy where hardwork is what seperates people.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why wouldn’t a state work that way? Do you think janitors generate profits? Necessity doesn’t imply importance, and there is limited occupancy in Valhalla

Disposable human cogs. Terrible opinion.

[Wonkie]

turns out if you tell people they deserve to eat shit all their life, some of them will hit you with a bike lock [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[d3r14k]

Janitors generate profits indirectly. No one is going to eat at a filthy restaurant or choose a for-profit hospital for a surgery if there is shit smeared on the walls.

[JurisDictum]

Just to be clear: the real Marxist solution (not that shit Lenin/Stalin/Mao did) is to give workers the means of production.

If people that worked for Apple/Ford/Nike etc. ALONE owned stock shares -- and all companies worked that way -- Marx posits that things will work much better for everyone over time.

So the idea that the government should get everything and distribute according to state goals is actually more fascist than Marxist. If you actually read what the man wrote, he said: "Workers take over the means of production and establish a dictatorship of the proletariat.

Dictatorship, not democracy. But proletariat, not Leninist elites. No Vanguard, no government control, no small elite politburo controlling society.

THAT BEING SAID

Government can be used for certain things people want cheaply. They are better at some things (insurance, natural resources, transportation, and education) than others.

This is not Marxist but some shit that Keynes came up with in the 1920-30s. We're pretty sure he was right that the government can be used to stimulate the economy if done correctly. It is also highly beneficial to have a safety net.

That above part -- that isn't even Marxist -- is what rightwing Americans are progrommed to hate. The capitalist welfare state, not the (Marxist) goal of rich workers.

Marx actually said the state itself would be unneeded eventually and wither away. We will all just have plenty and take care of each other. The dictatorship is a temporary phase.

I think that last part has proven to be quite unrealistic. Modern Marxists tend to mix democracy with Marxist thought. They see it more as worker co-ops + some goverment intervention for welfare/environment. They want to end big banks and wallstreet mostly.

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

turns out if you tell people they deserve to eat shit all their life, some of them will hit you with a bike lock [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're not supposed to try to kill people when they call you no no words.

We learn this when we're toddlers.

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lying to make them appear simultaneously weak and strong?

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Yes.

Are you really this retarded?

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes.

Are you really this retarded?

"Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak."