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Old 12-10-2020, 08:08 PM
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Parse a high level rogue vs a wizard. Tell me who wins, rogues that backstab for 300-400 without any costs or the wizard spitting 1600 every 72 seconds, it doesn't take a genius. Just in denial.
And not the 2 min it takes for wizards to empty their mana bar, this is about sustain DPS. Completely different story, 30min, 45min, 2 hours.
Again wiz are king of raid boss dps until Velious.
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:15 PM
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this entire discussion has been in the context of groups. Wizards are great for killing raid mobs. Not the best, they're not necessary like war/clr/shm, but they are great.

They're arguably the worst class for groups though.
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:36 PM
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Least popular combination being a Human or Half Elf Rogue; versus least popular class and least popular race would be a Troll Shadowknight.
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Old 12-11-2020, 04:20 PM
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ideal situation isn't what I see here on green in most groups. Only because everyone knows whats best, doesnt mean the group can do it. Shamans dont ignore mana at all on green. Asked three shamans and myself (48 shm), most replies were sth along "lol?!?", so no, Shamans need mana and go oom like every other class with mana.
That's why I specifically said "with Torpor". A 60 shaman with all their spells has infinite mana. I'm not talking about a group in Karnor's here.
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Old 12-11-2020, 06:11 PM
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Long story short, half elf wizards are the best class / race combo

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Old 12-13-2020, 11:54 PM
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What's with the super low Rogue numbers?
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Old 12-14-2020, 12:04 AM
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What's with the super low Rogue numbers?
pressing 1 button isn't exactly fun
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Old 12-14-2020, 12:07 AM
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I can't argue with that. I vaaaaaguely remember playing rogue into the teens back on live, but I thought I had more buttons than just one.
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Old 12-14-2020, 06:48 AM
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What's with the super low Rogue numbers?
No epic in yet, evading is more difficult (versus blue)...and personally for me, I mained a rogue and didn't want to do it again anyway let alone now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-14-2020, 11:50 AM
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Again wiz are king of raid boss dps until Velious.
bosses have 32k hp in everquest until velious does not matter who is king of dps nothing has any challenge at all
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