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[Fael]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SamWise, lay it out. What is your classic vision.

Does it include:

Classic UI forced
No ducking casts
No MQs
No Recharging
No Scroll Wheel to 3rd person
No DoT damage listed
No Buff duration shown
No mana total shown in inventory window
255 Resist Cap

Get all that done for a true classic experience sir. You will be The Lord of Classic EQ.

1. Curious as to what evidence there is that recharging was considered an exploit by SOE in the year 2,000. I honestly don't remember.

2. Suggestion that epic MQ is not classic is pretty stupid. MQ's were classic; what makes an epic MQ any different. The argument that it didn't happen that much is dumb. MQ of quests was widely used before Kunark and velious. If SOE wanted to make epics special and set apart, then they would have made the quests so as to preclude MQ's. They didn't.

[Rist]

I once found a Commons hat on a vendor in Erudin. Promptly ran to the bank and bought it with all I had and sold it for a profit. Don't remember how much the difference was, but free plat to a 20 Mage was glorious.

Don't leave stuff on merchants expecting them to be there the next time you want to recharge.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Curious as to what evidence there is that recharging was considered an exploit by SOE in the year 2,000. I honestly don't remember.

2. Suggestion that epic MQ is not classic is pretty stupid. MQ's were classic; what makes an epic MQ any different. The argument that it didn't happen that much is dumb. MQ of quests was widely used before Kunark and velious. If SOE wanted to make epics special and set apart, then they would have made the quests so as to preclude MQ's. They didn't.

1+2

They are indeed classic bugs.

I use the term bug because bother were fixed in one way or another.

1. They made all vendors filter items by charge, preventing the recharge exploit.
2. Around LDoN/LoY/GoD era all quests moved to be un-MQable. Requiring all turnins be provided from a single source or having some hidden character flags tied to quest steps.*

*though MQing most quests was not retroactively fixed.

[Jygia]

They knew about recharging, during Velious the prices for some rechargeable items were raised (egg shaped pumice and golem wand went from 15pp to 100pp and some others too, like rez stick, etc...)

[sulpher01]

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[Fael]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2. Around LDoN/LoY/GoD era all quests moved to be un-MQable. Requiring all turnins be provided from a single source or having some hidden character flags tied to quest steps, though MQing most quests was not retroactively fixed.

If this is the only evidence, then calling MQing a "Classic Bug" is disingenuous, particularly when MQ wasn't changed until much later in time, and even then you could still MQ Classic World content. Thus the specific problem was identified, and deliberately left unchanged.

In this regard, MQing is no different than kiting or FD pulling. Sure, perhaps it wasn't originally contemplated and intended; but it became accepted and even endorsed by SOE.

Dolic

[Daldaen]

No. It was never endorsed. That's why it was phased out. It was a bug and they rectified it by making all their future content not be MQable. They just didn't care enough to go back and rewrite 1000+ quests from Classic to PoP.

They, like GMs here, did and do not refund for failed MQs.

Kiting and FD pulling on the other hand; many things were added such as new AAs, raids, and group events to cater to these mechanics. Endorsing them as you would say.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. It was never endorsed. That's why it was phased out. It was a bug and they rectified it by making all their future content not be MQable. They just didn't care enough to go back and rewrite 1000+ quests from Classic to PoP.

They, like GMs here, did and do not refund for failed MQs.

Kiting and FD pulling on the other hand; many things were added such as new AAs, raids, and group events to cater to these mechanics. Endorsing them as you would say.

Not entirely true. You are right that that's the policy from live, even still today...but that doesn't mean that GMs never helped players out.

[tizznyres]

I left my Leatherfoot raider cap on a neriak foreign merchant once. That was scary.