I keep hearing how Iksar are the master race

[Ravager]

Iksars are for the <Special Buddies of Norrath>.

[Gustoo]

Innate regen is a pretty insane upgrade.

Iksars also have secret avoidance bonus that probably makes them the ultimate min/max race if you did your own parses or something.

For monks and necromancers it is a no brainer as there are no drawbacks at all in those cases except hated faction.

For Shaman, Warrior, and SK you have to consider ogres and trolls. Trolls have the regen, and ogres have physical frontal stun immunity.

Of these 3 super power races which one is the most super power? Hard to decide. The innate avoidance bonus might be the deciding factor in Iksar versus the others.

For me it has always been Iksar for necro and monk, ogre for all their classes and troll for none since they overlap with ogre.

Now I'm not so sure.

Some classes have a clear superior race when it comes to minmax and others are less so.

This all in the velious era. In vanilla its different because min/max puts you in a different place. Mostly with cleric and paladin imo

Monk - Iksar
Necro - Iksar
Druid - Halfling
Enchanter - High Elf
Cleric - High elf
Rogue - Barbarian
Paladin - High elf
Wizard and Mage - DE probably just for hide ability

Bard, Ranger, doesn't matter at all

Warrior, SK, Shaman (the ogre/ troll overlap classes) there is room for debate.

That's just my opinion.

You can see that humans are not on the list anywhere.

But yeah if you had to limit yourself to one playable race you would wanna be human since they can be all classes except shaman. Duh.

[Gustoo]

Really it's most important to be the race you like the best.

With new blind mechanic enabled I can't play blind races anymore the crazy contrast with the torches and total pitch blackness is just too buggy and weird for me to play them at all which is a huge shame.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Innate regen is a pretty insane upgrade.

Iksars also have secret avoidance bonus that probably makes them the ultimate min/max race if you did your own parses or something.

For monks and necromancers it is a no brainer as there are no drawbacks at all in those cases except hated faction.

For Shaman, Warrior, and SK you have to consider ogres and trolls. Trolls have the regen, and ogres have physical frontal stun immunity.

Of these 3 super power races which one is the most super power? Hard to decide. The innate avoidance bonus might be the deciding factor in Iksar versus the others.

For me it has always been Iksar for necro and monk, ogre for all their classes and troll for none since they overlap with ogre.

Now I'm not so sure.

Some classes have a clear superior race when it comes to minmax and others are less so.

This all in the velious era. In vanilla its different because min/max puts you in a different place. Mostly with cleric and paladin imo

Monk - Iksar
Necro - Iksar
Druid - Halfling
Enchanter - High Elf
Cleric - High elf
Rogue - Barbarian
Paladin - High elf
Wizard and Mage - DE probably just for hide ability

Bard, Ranger, doesn't matter at all

Warrior, SK, Shaman (the ogre/ troll overlap classes) there is room for debate.

That's just my opinion.

You can see that humans are not on the list anywhere.

But yeah if you had to limit yourself to one playable race you would wanna be human since they can be all classes except shaman. Duh.

Iksars are for weak bad players that need to compensate for being weak and bad.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really it's most important to be the race you like the best.

With new blind mechanic enabled I can't play blind races anymore the crazy contrast with the torches and total pitch blackness is just too buggy and weird for me to play them at all which is a huge shame.

I can hook ya up with glowing stone band if you’re on green. I sold my last one but I can get another np

[starkind]

So iksars are like fancy shoes imo.

Learn2 run barefoot.

Then wear an iksar because they look cool and are way more comfortable anyway.

[Boptop]

gnome

[Vermineux]

Originally Posted by Boptop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gnome

Based.

[ClephNote]

Humans Innoruk make best cleric, not high elf with their 2 STR and 1 STA.

If you’re min-maxing, you’re assuming access to plat or raid guild, in which case the better sis and cha of High Elf don’t matter.

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by ClephNote [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Humans Innoruk make best cleric, not high elf with their 2 STR and 1 STA.

If you’re min-maxing, you’re assuming access to plat or raid guild, in which case the better sis and cha of High Elf don’t matter.

I like the DE inny cleric route for the snare neck + hide. Human looks rad with eyepatch though and is more rare.