Need before greed in pickup groups?

[Badmartigan]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i am very rarely in a group that isnt nbg, and if I am, it is very clearly communicated as such beforehand. I would flip my shit if a necro rolled on a fungi over me, and just as has been mentioned, would be equally silly to roll on rare jug spells if there are casters in the group that need them

wtf is wrong with you people, i thought we were friends here?

It really depends.. If I'm i'n a grip for fungi and everyone is forcing the greed roll and my pal karsten needs the tunic I'll suggest the we give it to him.. And if they force the greed roll I would roll and if I won over karsten I would give it to my pal karsten because I know he needs it and will use it and not just sell it..

Fungi is an intense camp that requires solid raid level skill of the ench and cleric.. Coupled with solid dps... I understand the greed roll i'n a pickup grp...

[purist]

Originally Posted by Kailo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Helping gear up the folks that you are grouped with is great so far as i am concerned, but "need before greed" was never even a concept back on Veeshan.

False

[Vubbers]

No on NBG, not in pugs... if i'm with friends then sure, hell if i'm in a pug and an item my friend wants drops i'll roll on it with the intention of giving them it.

this.

[maegi]

I agree with NBG only with friends and or guildies, people I don't know from adam can roll on any relevant loot, UNLESS it's no drop and that class is in the group. No one else can benefit or sell it, so it only makes sense that the class that could use the item would get it.

[Icaro]

Originally Posted by h0tr0d (shaere) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. Mainly the bullshit factor. MY first experience with NBG here was a group in Highpass. Some DE warrior? won a shralok pack, citing his heavy armor as need. Myself, as a young monk wanted to, protest, but eh, he had a point. A few hours later he was selling it in EC. What was that name.. Chtulu?

That's not NBG... That's just lame.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Icaro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not NBG... That's just lame.

Don't forget that for every time you catch the person claiming need and selling the item in EC later there are like 10 other people who claim need and sell it without ever getting noticed.

[Bubbles]

Need before greed is so relative in a lot of spots.

For example: in lower guk dead side, there isn't a single item a druid would 'need'.

In Solb, discounting fire giants and efreeti, there simply isn't a lot of need in most of the drops.

But yeah, in general, i've always gone with need before greed. It's 10x more rewarding to watch someone put on a new piece of gear and continue on fighting than watching someone score something and go 'oh that'll rule for my 3rd alt!"

Pick up groups are generally something i normally just avoid, though.. I imagine a lot of those are straight /random 100s for whatever drops just because there's no other simply way to gauge need among 6 strangers and keep everyone happy (not everyone is so socialist and myopian about clapping for others getting loot).

As for 'Greed' in lower guk.. well.. considering 3/4s of anything killed in lower guk is killed solo by dang plat farmers, the greed component killed the mere concept of "grouping" entirely heh.

[Atennu]

Originally Posted by Hobby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I was a player here and leveling up, the groups I joined were almost always NBG.


Then again, I leveled up when 500 max population was a huge thing and the Andain stories entertained us for hours and hours.




The Good Ol' Days is what I like to call them

And you love it

[Icaro]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't forget that for every time you catch the person claiming need and selling the item in EC later there are like 10 other people who claim need and sell it without ever getting noticed.

Well, I don't see a point in a warrior claiming as "need" for a wt reduction bag tbh.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Icaro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, I don't see a point in a warrior claiming as "need" for a wt reduction bag tbh.

Then the group shouldn't have bought his claim, lol