Tunare - Plane of Growth questions

[Ele]

Except Fist of Nature. :P

At least to the extent we haven't shown it existed Pre-Luclin.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=150097

[Daldaen]

Oh so she wasn't perma rooted in the field to start?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh so she wasn't perma rooted in the field to start?

That might be a Luclin thing too.

When we tried her on Prexus late-Velious and pulled her to the mini-castle on the East wall to try and negate the push back.


http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/n...01805170475931

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She's permarooted now - starts out in her treehouse, but warps out to the forrest near it when aggroed. Easier fight now imo.

She doesn't rampage, but flurries quite a bit - maybe every 5 seconds or so. High resists (no lifetaps, gotta use lures, etc.)

Only real problem with her is her knockback + root, but it's pretty easy to overcome with some thought.

[Nirgon]

Call up Blizzard corporate office and ask for Furor Planedefiler to get this all str8ned out

[wycca]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except Fist of Nature. :P

At least to the extent we haven't shown it existed Pre-Luclin.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=150097

I can't post since that old thread is locked, but did more digging -

New info on Fist of Nature - I actually can't believe I didn't do this sooner. Chardok revamp went live on 10/08/01. If you look up Fist of Nature (item #5776), then check item id's around it - from #5772 up through #5781 are all Chardok revamp items. The notable exception is #5777 - which is from PoP. Looking at it though, it could easily be a chardok revamp item that wasn't used, which suggests it may have simply been renamed and re-used for PoP. The 10/08/01 patch date is the patch I fingered for likely adding the Fist of Nature - ie melee revamp & tunare loot revamp.

Old Research Here - http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=27

I'm firmly convinced it went in with the 10-08-01 Monk weapon revamp. There was also a Tunare item revamp - most likely on the 10-08-01 that I originally pointed at since I think AL got the revamped loot? Oh and Chardok went in on 10-8-01, with the Fist of Nature being created in the middle of a bunch of new Chardok items.

There's also no reason to expect that they somehow went back, after the Tunare item revamp, after the Chardok revamp, after the Monk weapon itemization changes, when the shit-show of a Luclin launch was going on (before the 12/24/01 Magelo entry), and added *1* weapon for monks to Tunare. More likely it just wasn't discovered (except perhaps by Legacy of Sorrow), and should be a classic 1hb on her table.

[Nirgon]

Agree with above using Vulcan logic

[Treats]

I don't think Tunare was rooted in the middle of the field until the patch that also rooted some NToV dragons.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by wycca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't post since that old thread is locked, but did more digging -

reopened the thread if you want to post in it.

[Ele]

I'm certainly not on a campaign to keep out Fist of Nature no matter what and wouldn't be against it coming in as 1hb, but I think the item # argument is a bit tenuous.

Using the item list from: http://lucy.allakhazam.com/downloads.html

In the middle of Chardok revamp stuff is the Fist:
5776,"Fist of Nature",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5776

Other items added or upgraded in late Velious, especially Priceless Velium Fist Wraps:

5833,"Priceless Velium Fist Wraps",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5833
5834,"Priceless Velium Knight's Sword",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5834
5835,"Primal Velium Knight's Sword",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5835
5836,"Fist of Lightning",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5836
5837,"Dragonrib Club",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5837
5838,"Baton of Flame",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5838
5839,"Wurmscale Fistwraps",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5839
5840,"Argent Protector",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5840
5841,"Shard of Night",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5841
5842,"Dragonspine Rapier",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5842
5843,"Frosted Ice Spike",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5843

But Primal Fist Wraps are way down the list with normal Primals:

27320,"Primal Velium Fist Wraps",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=27320
27321,"Primal Velium Battlehammer",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=27321
27322,"Primal Velium Spear",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=27322
27323,"Primal Velium Claidhmore",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=27323
27324,"Primal Velium Brawl Stick",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=27324
27325,"Primal Velium War Lance",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=27325
27326,"Primal Velium Reinforced Bow",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=27326
27327,"Primal Velium Battle Axe",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=27327
27328,"Primal Velium Warsword",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=27328

Custom Velious Helms in the middle of Luclin items in the 2600s:

2610,"Custom Frostreaver's Velium Crown",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2610
2611,"Custom Crown of the Kromzek Kings",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2611
2612,"Custom Cowl of Mortality",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2612

But other custom quested helms are way down the list in the 35000:

31515,"Custom Dark Runed Crown",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31515
31516,"Custom Runed Protector's Helm",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31516
31517,"Custom Resonant Helm",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31517
31518,"Custom Crown of Forbidden Rites",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31518
31519,"Custom Champion's Crown",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31519
31520,"Custom Malevolent Crown",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31520
31521,"Custom Shining Helm",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31521
31522,"Custom Troubadour's Helm",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31522
31523,"Custom Templar's Crown",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31523
31524,"Custom Warlord's Crown",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31524
31525,"Custom Blood Lord's Crown",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31525
31526,"Custom Scaled Knight's Helm",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31526
31527,"Custom Helm of Twilight",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31527
31528,"Akkirus' Custom Crown of the Risen",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31528
31529,"Custom Crown of the Myrmidon",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=31529

Some Sleeper's Tomb items are just a hundred spots away from cloth caps (1001) towards the beginning of the database.

1135,"Mask of Tinkering",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=1135
1136,Smolder,http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=1136
1137,"Shroud of Longevity",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=1137
1138,"White Resistance Stone",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=1138
1139,"Blue Resistance Stone",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=1139
1140,"Red Resistance Stone",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=1140

Kunark stuff in the 6000s:

6629,"Rod of Mourning",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=6629
6630,"Runed Fighters Staff",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=6630
6631,"Ton Po's Bo Stick of Understanding",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=6631
6635,"Woodsman's Staff",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=6635
6636,"Runestone Maul",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=6636
6637,"Staff of Battle",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=6637

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm certainly not on a campaign to keep out Fist of Nature no matter what and wouldn't be against it coming in as 1hb, but I think the item # argument is a bit tenuous.

Using the item list from: http://lucy.allakhazam.com/downloads.html

In the middle of Chardok revamp stuff is the Fist:
5776,"Fist of Nature",http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=5776

Other items added or upgraded in late Velious, especially Priceless Velium Fist Wraps:



But Primal Fist Wraps are way down the list with normal Primals:




Custom Velious Helms in the middle of Luclin items in the 2600s:


But other custom quested helms are way down the list in the 35000:



Some Sleeper's Tomb items are just a hundred spots away from cloth caps (1001) towards the beginning of the database.


Kunark stuff in the 6000s:

good post which is why deleting all the sea dragon meats by using item ID #'s is ridiculous.