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Old 08-01-2016, 01:54 AM
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this guy couldn't be any further from the truth. Sounds like he got raped once by a twink and will never log in again. Please try red if your skin is thicker than paper.
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Old 08-01-2016, 05:33 AM
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Are they at the end of the patch cycle on this server?

I'm not saying they'll ever do a fresh server, but you'd at least think they'd want to have all the patches done (and also maybe pre-fix some things they considered mistakes that were "classic" but exploity).

If they were to start a fresh server...could they ever stop it and send all of those chars to the current blue/red servers? Would that be "fair" to those that earned those items while they were available on the current servers?

Then again if they started a fresh server with the anticipation of a reset...people would probably jump on it at first but eventually the server would hit whatever timeline where people would feel like it is worthless to even start on it.

They would almost need to make a new server with explicit knowledge that it would be a future dump server for other "new" servers.

Seems like a big ol' hassle.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:02 AM
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No, no one knows the ETA for a fresh server.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:26 AM
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Never happening until the admin changes
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Old 08-01-2016, 01:49 PM
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You know what will happen with a fresh server?

Everything that was talked about with players having full armor, being twinks and having the best of the best until an new patch comes out.

A fresh server isn't going to restart anything and make everyone work their way up the ladder of armor and weapons.

A fresh server is just going to have people create classes that they can powerlevel to get the items that will be removed later such as the Manastone and other items so they can make their twinks again.
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Old 08-01-2016, 02:20 PM
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You know what will happen with a fresh server?

Everything that was talked about with players having full armor, being twinks and having the best of the best until an new patch comes out.

A fresh server isn't going to restart anything and make everyone work their way up the ladder of armor and weapons.

A fresh server is just going to have people create classes that they can powerlevel to get the items that will be removed later such as the Manastone and other items so they can make their twinks again.
what youre forgetting about is the large number of exploits that have taken place since the launch of blue. i havent been here since launch, but i remember many times where the validity of blue server was comprimised. countless cases of using server lag to duplicate items, many non-timeline items being distributed, not to mention the fact that lots of patches have been applied with no reset of the server.

there is a post somewhere in the forums about how in the servers youth period there was millions of platinum that was basically created out of nowhere. rmt, scams, manastones, etc
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Old 08-01-2016, 03:02 PM
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It effects you whether you realize it or not.
Nope. Nothing affects you unless you allow it to.

Anyway... there's not going to be any fresh EQ server.
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Old 08-01-2016, 03:15 PM
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A new server would harm the population which would lower server health IMO.
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Old 08-01-2016, 03:23 PM
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first off, i know this is not the first time anyone has mentioned this problem. ive been playing alot recently (mostly low level toons), and ive noticed that the low end is heavily influenced by the amount of 40+ characters on the server. here's some examples:
  • it is not uncommon to be in a group at level 5 with someone in full ro/cultural armor
  • alot of players under level 30 have haste items
  • many groups kill mobs so fast that they run out of mobs halfway through the spawn timer
  • velious weapons are frequently handed out to new players, making it not uncommon for a low level to hit for max damage nearly every swing
  • alot of content goes untouched, or is impossible to find a group for

before people start suggesting that my post be banned to RnF, let me just state that i do not personally mind slaughtering low-end content. in fact, i usually mildly twink out my new toons in order to keep up with the trend.

what i am criticizing, however, is how the "classic feel" is totally lost to new players who have never experienced EQ. considering that this server (look in the top left of your screen) advertises "Classic Everquest", i think its a bit disillusioning to people with no prior experience, who come to this server to see what EQ is about.

i realize that this is by no means the fault of the development team. server administrators have no responsibility when it comes to player interactions, so long as those interactions stay friendly, and no one is offended. what the problem is, im not going to go into detail. im looking for a solution, i want to call on the community to create a status quo... for the benefit of the server.

rushing new players to 60 without giving them the time or opportunities to learn mechanics, does not seem like a good strategy to create a strong, lasting playerbase. there are so many community aspects of this game which are lost to this server because of this "rush" strategy. ive had many ideas for community events, but it seems like the majority of the playerbase is only interested in going to the same "hot zones" or getting PL'd.

Live is total shit until you get to endgame content, due to all the "fixes" they implemented. maybe a fresh p99 server might not be the answer to this problem, but for now i am excited to find out when i can expect one. thanks for reading, i know its bad

I get what you're saying...I started playing on this server about a year before kunark came out (june-ish 2010) and there were still low level warriors twinks; full crafted, with double yak and fbss lol ...
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Old 08-01-2016, 03:33 PM
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It effects you whether you realize it or not.

I think they should make good on their promise to "never wipe" blue or red, but they need 2 new servers if this project is going to continue to offer a classic experience. The current servers no longer offer that for all of the reasons listed by the OP and in my various posts on this topic.

The new servers should rotate through the timeline and then, at the end, transfer characters to the original persistent servers and start again.

The current mudflated and top-heavy servers do not offer a classic Everquest experience... no matter how much people want to ignore "the gear of others."
THIS.

Great post, OP.

Could not agree more.
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