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Old 01-01-2024, 06:27 AM
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You’re not dropping on a rogue in 5 rounds on xp content. Get real! 3 rounds vs tov trash fair enough, but the context of the comment was levelling.

That said it does feel like rogues/rangers got a lot worse at mitigation i think the antitwink worn ac caps may have got screwed up for them.
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Old 01-01-2024, 02:14 PM
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5 rounds is being kind...
It's probably less.
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Old 01-01-2024, 07:50 PM
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I’m confused someone enlighten me pls.
So, OP, any thoughts on the responses to your thread so far?
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Old 01-02-2024, 09:29 AM
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FWIW one of the best XP trios I ever did was my rogue, bard, monk. All 3 of us had fungis / epic and we non-stopped killed at slabs in hole for 3 hours.

We all took some damage.
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Old 01-02-2024, 05:14 PM
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I laugh out loud everytime I read someone talk about Rogues tanking or mitigating damage well. Maybe if you're raid geared it helps a bit? But in my ec gear @60 (and on the way up) I've got 3-5 attack rounds in me before I drop. My defense is capped.

With that said...I do remember I used to wait to engage mobs back on live in 99-03 or so and give tanks a few rounds before I'd attack. On p99 tho, nobody does that. Speed is king and so everyone just zergs and deals with the occasional aggro swapping.
You have bad gear. Maybe save up for something nicer like Crystal Chitin. Hope this helps.

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5 rounds is being kind...
It's probably less.
Omg dramatic update. Prioritize AC/HP instead of haze panther garbage. YW
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Old 01-02-2024, 05:19 PM
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Why do rogs /monks / rangers/ intentionally try and get aggro in group content as if they are helping the group so how. Can anyone explain this though process behind this.
If you have a tank in the group and the mob is rooted why are the intentionally getting as close to the mob as possible? Or they are not using evade or FDing at all and rng opening up with flame lick. Am I missing something? How is this helpful in any way? Isn’t it making more work for the healer and wasting more mana which = more downtime for everyone? So just wasting everyone’s time to feel “leet”? I’m confused someone enlighten me pls.
People who can't position right suck. There's a lot of them and I doubt it's intentional. If you're a person who can't tank so good I'm gonna snap that mob off you with a 100% backstab until the tank can manage it. Rogues, like rangers, are light tanks. High end rogues tank better than low end warriors.
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Old 01-02-2024, 05:19 PM
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You have bad gear. Maybe save up for something nicer like Crystal Chitin. Hope this helps.
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Omg dramatic update. Prioritize AC/HP instead of haze panther garbage. YW
I love this stuff.

Arms, boot and gauntlets are super easy just to stumble into while XPing at zone in. 58 AC, 22 str, 5 sta, 10 hp. Only 10 weight so +12 carry too.

Great gear suggestion!
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Old 01-02-2024, 05:29 PM
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I'd say that in 2024, the reason for the unnecessary agro is specifically the time invested in P99 has people just being too lazy to pay attention. We can provide all kinds of reasons somebody is pulling agro, and some of those might be valid for some folks. But the usual suspect is playing his 10th alt over the last 10 years, and just doesn't have the will to play like a team player anymore. You just assume the tank is twinked and can hold agro no matter the punishment you dish out to the mob.
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Old 01-03-2024, 12:12 PM
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They could just be new. I know when I started I didn't know much about how agro worked until I kept getting punched in the face as an ENC. Trial by fire learned real quick lol
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Old 01-03-2024, 09:50 PM
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High end rogues tank better than low end warriors.
Not in EverQuest. Please stay on the topic of EverQuest.
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