Shut down the casinos

[baakss]

Originally Posted by Zulzephur - Tarew Marr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait wait wait... how are you drawing this assumption? Even as a psychologist, I would never had drawn that conclusion out because someone handed me X,XXX amount of pixels on a video game.

Were they extremely upset when losing? Did they spam PM you with hated texts? Would they sit in the corner writing sad poetry and listening to Alanis Morissette records?

I don't understand. I ran casinos since the beginning, possibly the first / one of the first, but most the people had fun; win or lose. It's just pixels in the end, what people do with them is their choice as long as you aren't violating any rules, so I don't understand how someone who uses a casino in-game has gambling issues in real life, or is ultimately in a state of depression. At that rate, they might as well have a drinking addiction as well. Most the time, they have too much of it to even care about.

It's not just pixels. It's the time you spent to acquire them. It's the relationships you built in game. It's the ups and downs of wiping, winning, etc..

"It's just pixels" and you're a psychologist?? Sorry, I knew people who ruined their lives over this game in live. Lost families, dropped out of college, etc... and when you say "just pixels", it's an incredibly naive way of thinking about how people feel about their hobbies.

[kevoh]

HOLD THE PHONE THERES A PSYCHOLOGIST HERE!

[fastboy21]

Casinos and the idiots who play in them are classic. GMs helping said idiots is less classic. Banning idiots from being idiots is the opposite of classic.

[Nips]

Originally Posted by Zulzephur - Tarew Marr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait wait wait... how are you drawing this assumption? Even as a psychologist, I would never had drawn that conclusion out because someone handed me X,XXX amount of pixels on a video game.

Were they extremely upset when losing? Did they spam PM you with hated texts? Would they sit in the corner writing sad poetry and listening to Alanis Morissette records?

I don't understand. I ran casinos since the beginning, possibly the first / one of the first, but most the people had fun; win or lose. It's just pixels in the end, what people do with them is their choice as long as you aren't violating any rules, so I don't understand how someone who uses a casino in-game has gambling issues in real life, or is ultimately in a state of depression. At that rate, they might as well have a drinking addiction as well. Most the time, they have too much of it to even care about.

Has nothing to do with them handing me coin its me talking to them or talking to others that know them well. Once you learn some dark things about certain people, and then those same people come back constantly and go crazy at your casino, its hard to be too excited about running a casino. And I do agree, it's just pixels. If I cared more about them I'd probably be more likely to run a casino myself. That being said some people care a lot about their pixels.

[Cecily]

Yes, running a casino is being an agent of misfortune for the poor person who bets too much and loses it all. But you're also providing them with a chance to, in an instant, bypass an equal amount of time acquiring that plat. It's as beneficial as it is harmful. That's why gambling a controversial issue IRL. The difference being the fact that 45% odds of winning are waaaaaay better than most gambling odds in the real world.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Originally Posted by kevoh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HOLD THE PHONE THERES A PSYCHOLOGIST HERE!

It's honestly nothing to fuss about. One can't do much with just a psych degree (unless you have at least your Master's) unless you want to deal with piss ant teenagers as a counselor... and at that point, I'd be dealing with the same kids I once was, that I've now grown to hate.

Originally Posted by Nips [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has nothing to do with them handing me coin its me talking to them or talking to others that know them well. Once you learn some dark things about certain people, and then those same people come back constantly and go crazy at your casino, its hard to be too excited about running a casino. And I do agree, it's just pixels.

Or could be, because the reasons why they are so depressed and have these forms of addictions, also equate to them being on a video game so much, which is an addiction in itself, and/or a coping mechanism (was/is for me). Maybe that's why you see them so much? They're just there, always. Sounds, oddly a lot like me growing up, and even now to be honest.

If it led to them going out into the real world and going to a casino and blowing all their, or their childrens' college funds on blackjack then yea... stop, but they'd have more serious problems than gambling in a video game at that point.

I wouldn't feel bad about it... it is just pixels in reality; just don't stiff people. I'm gathering you haven't nor would you, so I wouldn't put too much thought into it. Can't lose what you don't bet, and no one is forcing them to.

[Scrubosaur]

What is nice about this server is that we have a great GM staff that can intervene. GM's can go back and read the chat, see the trade, see that the OP won and transfer the goods. When this happens it will merely lessen that amount of idiots who think they can scam currency via the casino because GM's will enforce the verbal (err written) agreement/terms of the deal. Casinos are classic as hell but I do remember a time during Luclin that GM's on Tholuxe-Paells posted a yellow message stating that people conducing casino's would be banned.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Originally Posted by Scrubosaur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Casinos are classic as hell but I do remember a time during Luclin that GM's on Tholuxe-Paells posted a yellow message stating that people conducing casino's would be banned.

Oh yeah... there eventually were some on all servers, and just like here, certain people have used them as a scamming method. I remember the same messages being displayed on Tarew Marr / Drinal.

What I ended up doing at that point, was "raffle" off items. I'd collect enough money to cover said item cost (plus a smaller sum for myself; usually 10% cost of item) from X amount of players, and whoever has highest roll; wins. Also you could do a 50/50 like raffle, but nothing as extreme as the person holding the platinum taking HALF... maybe 10%? That's normally what I did.

Also, I did all these types of things on my main. Very reputable player, top guild on server, and not some random level 1.


Either way, I'd ban the twats who scam. No second chances. In this case, ban the account(s) / IP of the Fungi owner. Transfer fungi tunic to the person who "won" the item, and be done with it. It's really that simple.

[Cecily]

Just need a few very public bans to set an example and might be less of an issue.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just need a few very public bans to set an example and might be less of an issue.

Sounds like now would be a good time to start.

I wouldn't wish for them to go away completely, but I would however like it if people who did "run" these, to do so on your main. There's no guarantee here either, but I'm gathering people scamming aren't doing so, and I'd bet on many of them have created a 2nd or 3rd account to do these on as well.

If they were to be completely shut down... wouldn't be the end of the world, but also wouldn't be the end of scamming and other shady business that goes on in the server though either.