How are Shamans without the expensive spells and items?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I were to make a new shaman today it would probably be iksar for regen, size, best resists, and robe fashion. The CT undead fear clicky can also come in handy on iksar/troll.

Troll gets regen also, and also gets the JBB. JBB > undead fear clicky and a few more resists ... but if you like the leezard people fashion, that's a legitimate reason to choose them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that's a legitimate reason to choose them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksars don't have diaper-butt when running with SoW.

It's worth giving up JBB to save yourself the nightmare of being subjected to that for hours.

[Toxigen]

Yeah I'd probably go Iksar too because robe = BiS fashion and in 2023 there isn't anything else that matters.

Mines barb fwiw...kinda inherited the char at lvl 40 tho.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FSI isn’t what it used to be when every mob bash was a stun. Do you want an occasional stun resist or a constant regen advantage that never goes away and maybe a snare clicky? Despite what people try to tell you there is no correct answer(hence the endless debates) so it really comes down to personal preference.

If I were to make a new shaman today it would probably be iksar for regen, size, best resists, and robe fashion. The CT undead fear clicky can also come in handy on iksar/troll.

The main reason why FSI is better than regen once you have Torpor is because the most critical part of any fight is the first minute, when you are trying to slow the mob. FSI can be the difference between a loss (can't slow), and getting the mob under control.

In a 15 minute fight, you are getting 1200 HP via standing regen on an Iksar/Troll vs. Ogre/Barbarian. 1200 HP is the equivalent of 1 Torpor, which is 180 mana. It's very rare that the difference in a win/loss was 1 Torpor. It's much more common for a loss to occur at the beginning of the fight. That is why FSI is better with Torpor.

Regen also does nothing when at full health, and a Torpor Shaman is usually at full health, because it takes 3 minutes or less to canni back to full HP/Mana when out of combat.

Outside of soloing, both FSI and Regen do little once you have Torpor. Racials are mostly useful for soloing. In groups the other players are giving you way more regen than any racial could, since you normally don't have to tank damage (which also means you aren't using FSI). Same thing in Raiding. Mobs kill you so fast that regen does nothing most of the time, and there are only a few seconds in which FSI may do something.

Obviously fashion is fashion, so w/e tickles your fancy[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Toxigen]

there goes the neighborhood

[Encroaching Death]

Next controversial question: What's better for Shaman? WIS or STA/HP?

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Next controversial question: What's better for Shaman? WIS or STA/HP?

both

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

both

25 Wis/5 Sta at character creation

Or

25 Sta/5 Wis at character creation?

Also, if someone sees this and creates a Shaman....buy my Fungi staff. I'm selling one.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

25 Wis/5 Sta at character creation

Or

25 Sta/5 Wis at character creation?

yes

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes

Someone will bite the bait at some point, hopefully