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Knight vs Ranger dps
With the updated 2h weapon tables, are rangers still substantially ahead of knights once they get a Tuna sword or Palladius axe? It looks like most rangers are opting for 2hers as well but their ratios aren't as strong.
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Rangers have a number of buffs that proc damage (and while knights do too they aren't equal)
Rangers offense is at 252 and knights are still at 225 Rangers 2H is 250 while I think knights are 225 While Knights and Rangers both have a fast casting melee spell Rangers get two (Call of Flame and Calefaction) There maybe other things. | ||
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Rangers get an innate attack bonus starting at level 55 iirc.
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On vindi my ranger (13/19 and 14/18) w/o avatar or AOB items but VoG and Focus did about 10% less than a Cek 2h ranger (63 vs 67). A 3 single 3 min parse is anecdotal but illustrative. It seems a coin toss in other content. A primal 2h pally is on average about 10% up as well. Fights, buffs, and luck varies so people rarely post parses that they eat dirt on. I’m all over the middle of the map (sometimes beating these folks) on average unless using a bfg, then further up the curve.
Even past the personal numbers an extra ranger is usually more helpful than a knight (unless they have a soulfire or are tanking). Attack buffs in 40 players is notable and a well timed bump can be invaluable. If you can offer solid performance and other perks tho it didn’t matter if knight if ranger. | ||
Last edited by Snaggles; 01-09-2023 at 01:38 AM..
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Nice thread OP!! I'd like to talk about it for a long time~
I have a ranger and my friend has a pally, we are in same guild so its easy to compare our dps in raid or small group... Our dps are very close when we killing raid targets like vindi, thifling focuser (easy to parse melees stay close and didn't move at all) Ranger wielding Meljeldin (best 2hs for ranger, best ratio 2hander for ranger is Shovel of the Harvest but i don't have it) Pally wielding Tuna sword (best 2hander for knights) We are close means sometimes ranger do more dmg sometimes pally do more Do ranger dps was "substantially ahead of knights" before i come to p99? When i was young (like 20 years ago), there are rumors about hybrids, they said knights trade off their dps to cast some spells so they can tank like a warrior but do less dmg, rangers trade off their tank ability for spells so they can do same dps as warrior but tank like shit, maybe it was true when lvl is capped at 50 ... | ||
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i'll try to find some log that is "no trash tanking no buffing mainly dpsing" when home [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | |||
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45/38 compared to a knight with 50/39 w/ 160 DD special represents a fairly substantial handicap for the ranger. That they do similar damage when the knight has a significantly better weapon illustrates the ranger's superior baseline. Be interesting to parse them with all other factors (buffs, weapons, et cetera) being identical so as to show how much class alone affects it.
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