"Need before greed"

[Nitsude]

All you soft-hearted poor people can still do NBG in a greed group. If you win, just give the item to who you think needs the item. And while you're driving home from work tomorrow in your Prius, listening to your favorite broadway musical radio station, you can reminisce on how great of a person you are.

NBG dictates that everyone must adhere to your standard of gameplay. GBN allows every member to decide how they want to distribute the item if they win, which makes it a superior loot system.

This attitude is gone by Kunark launch anyway.

[mischief419]

Makes 0 sense unless no drop. Not only does it have equal value to everyone,

* You can sell it and get something you NEED
* The guy that needs it may go immediately sell it
* If it's not best-in-slot, he WILL eventually sell it (it's not like he's going to find his original group to /random since he doesn't need it anymore)
* There's a good chance the guy you're rolling against is a twink. If this is your first char, esp, you need it [to sell] wayy more than the twink.

Eg, Ghoulbane. "I'm a paladin". Yea right, so many times I see these guys come back the next day with an SBS to try to pull that crap more than once, either selling or tossing on mule. Or maybe they'll have best in slot for everything *except* Ghoulbane.

Spells are expensive. Tradeskills are expensive. Need crap to sell to afford this stuff.

Unless they specifically say "need group" BEFORE you join, all drops are greed rolls. Don't need it immediately? Sell it and get something you need and have the same, inherent worth.

[BlackBellamy]

LOL. I "need" this item so I should have it. Oh yeah, and when you no longer "need" it because you got an upgrade, are you going to reform the original group and say ok guys I no longer need this so let's roll it off? No, you're going to sell that item for plat and you're going to keep that plat.

Like someone wisely said and I often repeat "Need Before Greed is someone trying to screw you out of your loot".

[Whirled]

If an unemployed guy goes and steals your rich employed neighbors newspaper so he could find a job; would that = NBG? P.S. = i do not endorse anyone stealing newspapers

[Polycaster]

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its a logical fact that trading for an item you can use is the same as equipping the original. Yet some people are too dumb to understand that utterly simple concept.

It is not the same, both economically and psychologically.

Psychologically, there is much greater satisfaction in camping something yourself like this was a game rather than buying it in EC like it was a trip to Walmart.

Economically, selling an item adds an extra step which consumes time thereby decreasing the efficiency of the transaction.

Whether you wish to maximize the GDP or the GDE (gross domestic enjoyment) of Norrath NBG is the most efficient of economic systems.

[Polycaster]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every worthwhile discussion thread invariably has one completely off the wall manifesto that is just a huge shitpost.

Behold it.

It was the most well-thought out post on this thread, carrying within it both wisdom and rage.

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by Polycaster [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is not the same, both economically and psychologically.

Psychologically, there is much greater satisfaction in camping something yourself like this was a game rather than buying it in EC like it was a trip to Walmart.

Economically, selling an item adds an extra step which consumes time thereby decreasing the efficiency of the transaction.

Whether you wish to maximize the GDP or the GDE (gross domestic enjoyment) of Norrath NBG is the most efficient of economic systems.

You mean have other people camp it for you.

Or are you gunna camp an item by yourself and be like, "okay guys NBG"

**A Magic Die is rolled by Polycaster.
**It could have been any number from 0 to 100, but this time it turned up a 4.

**A Magic Die is rolled by Polycaster.
**It could have been any number from 0 to 100, but this time it turned up a 69.

"grats Polycaster!"
"thanks"
"here you can have it"
"oh wow ty love you"
"love you too"

Lol

And you know what else adds an extra step? Not getting anything to begin with.

[Polycaster]

What is that gibberish? Grouping together isn't the same as someone doing everything for you. The projection you display is illuminating; everyone is alone in the world with no teamwork or camaraderie possible. A group is an illusion, a guild a psychosis. Only the self. <shudders>

[magicpotatoes]

Originally Posted by Polycaster [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is that gibberish? Grouping together isn't the same as someone doing everything for you. The projection you display is illuminating; everyone is alone in the world with no teamwork or camaraderie possible. A group is an illusion, a guild a psychosis. Only the self. <shudders>

The word you're looking for is solipsism.

[Bardp1999]

The tears of monks when T-Staff starts dropping and they don't get it will be monumental on Green