Preliminary Velious Parsing

[Raev]

It seems all of the TOV upgrades are in. So you can upgrade to 15/18, 16/19, or 40/30 2H.

I think when you combine dual 15/18 plus Avatar plus Call of the Predator you'll see way more damage than dual 16/22.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems all of the TOV upgrades are in. So you can upgrade to 15/18, 16/19, or 40/30 2H.

I think when you combine dual 15/18 plus Avatar plus Call of the Predator you'll see way more damage than dual 16/22.

Though you'll also have faster fights as dps upgrades. And won't have be a bigger boon to a wiz than a melee?

[Kender]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monk's will be more ridiculous with Avatar and at the very end Triple Attack. Plus weapons better than Wu's Fist of OP-in-Kunarkness.

But as I mentioned above, Damage Shield is #1 DPS in Velious if your MT and RTs are maxing it. Completely unresistable, guaranteed DMG is the best kind.

we should only see monks getting triple attack if they first release stonebrunt mountains which was a few months before the triple attack patch

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Though you'll also have faster fights as dps upgrades. And won't have be a bigger boon to a wiz than a melee?

Not really, because if you can kill it you can kill it. I think everything dies on day one, which means the only point to all this gear is that more mobs will die with short numbers on euro time.

[pasi]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tunare was dropping fist of nature on beta server

idk if they removed it, doubt they did

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems all of the TOV upgrades are in. So you can upgrade to 15/18, 16/19, or 40/30 2H.

Surprised, but good for raiders.

Hopefully this means early Luclin stat upgrades for Tunare, Vulak, AoW, and ST stuff. Delicious Flowing Thoughts and Enraging Blows for all.

[Daldaen]

No Luclin upgrades unless they give us Focus Effects, Druid CH and Moonfire and Spirit of Eagle and AAs and the rest of Luclin in its glory.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Kender [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we should only see monks getting triple attack if they first release stonebrunt mountains which was a few months before the triple attack patch

Why do you seem to think Stonebrunt wouldn't get added:

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010829.html

It's classic.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not really, because if you can kill it you can kill it. I think everything dies on day one, which means the only point to all this gear is that more mobs will die with short numbers on euro time.

Why not really? That first parse was over 6 minutes long. Wouldnt wizards spend quite a bit of that at their minimum dps level, limited by their mana regen? Seems like a fight half that long would mean the wiz spends less time bottomed out on their mana bar, less time losing ground to superior sustained dps of melee.

What am I missing, if this is incorrect?

[Raev]

My point was the wizard shouldn't *really* be that happy just because his epeen numbers are growing; what matters is the chance the raid has to kill the target.

[Tecmos Deception]

Fair enough overall point. I said what I did since the thread was started to consider relative class conparisons