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View Poll Results: What you wanna play?
Tallon Zek and Vallon Zek 11 18.97%
Rallos Zek 18 31.03%
Sullon Zek 16 27.59%
Discord 4 6.90%
Custom Made 9 15.52%
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Old 10-07-2019, 04:51 PM
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If you could choose?

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1. Tallon Zek and Vallon Zek--Everquest PvP servers which formed teams based on race.
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2. Rallos Zek--EverQuest PvP server which had no teams and item (and coin) loot.
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3. Sullon Zek--EverQuest server in which the players were separated into teams based on religion: good, evil, neutral. 
The level limits were removed, allowing someone of the highest level to kill someone of the lowest level, though there were limits on experience loss and looting.
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4. Discord - Short-lived PVP Server with severe penalties for death, the resetting of a character back to basic status, as well as points for killing other players.
The players with the most points at the end of the server's existence were rewarded with character transfers and special gear.
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5. Custom Rules. Would would you do?
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Old 10-07-2019, 05:05 PM
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Voted Sullon... twas the best.
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Old 10-07-2019, 05:07 PM
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Voted Sullon... twas the best.
Yeah Sullon was awesome but it had some balance problems.
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Old 10-07-2019, 05:08 PM
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Shorts vs elves, faydwer only, level 39 cap. Cross teaming makes a character attackable by both sides.
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Old 10-07-2019, 06:12 PM
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Sullon Zek--EverQuest server in which the players were separated into teams based on religion: good, evil, neutral. The level limits were removed, allowing someone of the highest level to kill someone of the lowest level, though there were limits on experience loss and looting.

Wait though... I voted too fast. The problem is people will just create toons on the winning team and there is nothing you can do about SPYS on the same team.

Just do the regular PVP FFA. Coin loot. And please ADD a shit ton more of zones that have no range of PVP

Lavastorm close to Sol B.
Traks Teeth // SEB
DL // Karnors

etc etc.

ALSO what is to stop a Troll from going to play with the shorties?
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Old 10-07-2019, 06:37 PM
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Honestly the only thing the server actually needs to be successful is an intelligent enforcement of PnP.


For the Guide / GM that is new to PvP here are some examples.


Example One - Trains

Out of range guy training a group over and over again? That's a ban.

PvP is going down in Lower Guk its getting chaotic and someone accidently grabs the ghouls in the next room and someone gets an exp death. Not a Ban!

Example Two- LNS

A player is constantly killing a player running to his body that has not violated LNS by calling the killer names or otherwise. (3+ kills on LNS). Thats a Ban.

A player is talking shit in say saying how he is going to get on his other 60 and mess you up. You hit him to stop camp to avoid fighting his other toon while you fight the rest of his group. Not a Ban

Example Three- Intentional Exp Loss

A 60 bard is swarm kiting all of CoM to level up an army of alts to park on raid targets. The alts are all grav fluxxed to the highest point in CoM and can't be PvP'd.
A 60 enchanter raptures the bard the train catches up and the bard dies. Not a Ban! Wait what?! not a ban your crazy! Ok heres why, on a PvP server if there is potential for PvP and you start a kite its your own fault. Also there is no counter play. Imagine you could land a 6 sec lure on a moving bard ( spoiler you can't) he will just BP it up. If you dispell or snare or root the same situation happens and you CAUSED EXP LOSS! So if you ban this enchanter you create a situation where the best way to level on a PvP server is get Bard kited PL'd and afk in an unreachable spot.

Intentional exp loss looks like this an SK trains you in lower guk immediately gets up after mobs aggro you and HT's you at 100% then runs off leaving the mobs to kill you. That's a Ban! I'd go as far to say that if it was in range and not repeatedly done this shouldn't instantly ban you though.

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No one wants to write up a full counter petition to keep from getting suspended for 14 days for PvPing. Even if you are innocent the suspension lands and the GM's never bothers to hear your side. This leads to players mass reporting players they have to fight in hopes one sticks and laughing about it. Suspensions should be enforced for the abusers but lenient enough to not ban anyone at anytime for PvPing on a box.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:04 AM
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I would rather no rules. If guild success depends on guilds /petitioning it won't be fun.

There was a difference between Tallon and Vallon. Tallon started with item loot and it was 8 levels.
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Old 10-08-2019, 02:02 AM
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I would rather no rules. If guild success depends on guilds /petitioning it won't be fun.

There was a difference between Tallon and Vallon. Tallon started with item loot and it was 8 levels.
Vallon had item loot longer than Tallon did.
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Old 10-08-2019, 02:03 AM
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listen to forrest, he knows best
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Old 10-08-2019, 03:01 AM
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Anyway chose custom, but really I want SZ-like hardcoded teams without the training and lack of level range. Intentional training belongs on pve servers where they don't have pvp means otherwise.

Think it'd be neat tho if they just made the pvp server recycle like green and tried out different rulesets each time.
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