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I'm just going to have to go with the majority opinion of climate scientists...especially after -- you know -- its been revealed Big Oil, Coal, and Chemicals were all spending billions in climate denial media. | |||
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I like to differentiate between my thoughts and my opinions. Thoughts are an automatic process but I'll only call something my opinion once I think that I have enough information, thought it through properly and have a high degree of certainty. This distinction is arbitrary though. If you don't know you refrain from making claims of certainty. What would be the logic behind saying "I don't know whether or not I believe that I have a bag of Cheetos"? I do have to say that one issue here is that semantics is very important here. Q: "Do you have a bag of Cheetos?" A: "I believe so". That answer means "I think I do". The word believe is used in a bunch of different ways and it can be confusing. Quote:
In regards to disbelief equaling a lack of belief, I disagree entirely. And that's the key point. I posted this before: A person tells a story to three people. Person one thinks the story is true. Person two thinks the story is a lie. Person three doesn't quite know. Does person one (who thinks it's true) believe the story? Yes. Does person one disbelieve the story? No. Does person two (who thinks it's a lie) believe the story? No. Does person two disbelieve the story? Yes. Does person three (who doesn't quite know) disbelieve the story? No. Does person three believe the story? No. That is the distinction between lack of belief and disbelief. Lets just take the common usage of the word agnostic and speak on a person who hasn't been convinced of the existence of a god/gods. Does this person believe in any gods? Does this person hold a belief in a god/gods? The answer is no. A person who doesn't believe/hold a belief in a god/gods is an atheist. An agnostic in the common usage of the word is actually an atheist. But common usage doesn't really mean much in terms of truth. "I could care less" is incorrect, no matter how much it is used. 'Atheist', 'theist' and 'agnostic' are all misapplied. Wikipedia isn't exactly a source but in this case it can be helpful since we're talking about the usage of a word. A dictionary isn't an authority source on proper definitions either but both a dictionary and in this case Wikipedia do provide information on usage. Wikipedia: "Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is the rejection of belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities" Quote:
Christians reject all other gods except for one. So you're right that their disbelief/lack of believe doesn't mean they don't hold belief in any gods. I don't really see your point here though. There seems to be some implication of belief limbo but that would be contradictory with what you said earlier ("there is a belief or there is not. you believe or you do not"). But I don't think that's your point. Maybe this is something that we agree on. That's logic 101. Quote:
This is why the term 'positive atheist' exists. A positive atheist is someone who doesn't hold a belief in any gods [belief] and claims that there are no gods (knowledge). This is a positive assertion and requires evidence. That is a decision/truth claim. To go back to my comment about babies and atheism. The terms 'atheist' and 'theist' can't exist without the other. So if a person can't be a 'theist' applying the term 'atheist' is inappropriate. Lets use a term that used to be quite popular (I'm reading "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Seas" now and it's ripe with the word) 'savage'. Imagine there was a group of savages that never had any contact with the outside world. They don't have gods in their culture and no concept of such a being. Therefore they don't hold any beliefs in gods. If they don't even have a concept of god they can't logically reject it. Yet they still lack a belief in any gods. This is what being an atheist boils down to. | ||||||
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If you don't get why the whole world think 'muricans are morons, just read the last 5 pages of this thread
I am myself fighting hard to remember that the majority of people didn't vote for golfer in chief
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If they want to leave and go form their own country and declare atheism their established religion hehe, or freedom FROM all religions, well they can do that. But to try to take over a country by the minority and by way of w/o fulfilling the burden of proof and also gaining majority. well it's just selfish. As they say, if it's not broken, don't fix it. We can make popcorn, sit back and watch france burn due to this, and as their atheists think they can tame and dominate islam. Islam is no ones friend, never can be. Look at Jarn regret the days of Hitlers rule over his country having come to an end. "Stupid Americans!" hah Must also hate our ingenuity and contributions which are very many to civilization. Would rather live by candlelight and dysentery. heh the thoughts out of franceghanistan, forced for a period of time to not be a 3rd world islamic state living in caves.
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Asteroid that destroyed the dino's hit a very small target:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39922998 It was shallow coastal water with a ground formed by a mineral called gypsum, that got vaporized and sent sulphur to the atmosphere, which created a nuclear winter way worse than wat would have happened simply by the impact. Had it landed in the Marina Trench for example it may not have ended the reign of the dino's sounds like INTELLIGENT DESIGN to me. | ||
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zero-point energy generation is one good example. It's been proven, a system invented, and then seized by the govt to prolly never be seen again. Such things are a threat to a set consumerism, such as a reliance on nuclear energy production, natural gas, coal and oil. You must have your petrodollar or else, so don't touch the oil. Meanwhile best propaganda, nuclear reactors are just so destructive. But nuclear energy is scientific consensus, at least of the consensus allowed to participate in the consensus as is the norm. So years ago they made it seem natural, explained how our star operates by nuclear fusion. Yet, isn't proven, but we have consensus, yet still an unproven theory. If consensus were to be allowed to swing towards electrically charged plasma such as in the electric universe theory, people may not be willing to consume nuclear power plants so readily any longer, maybe demand zero-point energy. But then if nuclear power ended having been fully replaced by free energy, how could states like Iran be allowed to build a nuclear power plant for "energy production" uh-huh. And now if they didn't do that, our military industrial complex may slow down exchange of petrodollars. Seriously, you are stuck in a failed Matrix/1984 style system you think is ok because of manipulated scientific consensus. Free power and a world all with access to clean water is ssooo unscientific! Break free of it.
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