is it against the rules to.

[Critical]

Vault, I think you are good, because in all honesty there is no difference between ur brother being there while u kite versus him not being there... The only problem would be if you were to move or adjust his character by buffing/looting etc like was mentioned before.

[Soleryn]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No I would warn them and kick them to desktop. It's the same as afk pet campers. Anything after the first warning then we can do something more about it.

This seems like a stretch to me. Where I can see where the 'same as afk pet campers' conclusion can be drawn, at the time the no AFK camping rule was enacted, it was not directed at the type of situation being discussed here.

If I remember correctly it was because at the time certain players were holding item camps and exp camps while not having to have a real player at the computer. This was more of an exploit in game mechanics involving pets which made it wrong, and I can understand that reasoning.

In the topic situation, this would not be AFK camping. There is still a live person maintaining the camp while not violating any other rules or exploiting game mechanics. Who is to say the AFK person isn't coming back? And where is the line of exactly how long someone can be AFK before such a punishment (kicking to desktop) can be applied? I've been in KC where someone disappears for a half hour but the group still let's them stay. According to what I'm seeing here the group would be obligated to kick them per 'the rules' or the whole group would be just as guilty as someone 2-boxing for giving away free exp. I fail to see how if someone is maintaining a camp by themselves, why they do not get to choose who can receive the exp with them, whether the player is currently windowed into or out of EQ.

If the guys upstairs don't want people getting experience while they are not physically sitting at their computer staring at EQ on their screen, make that a clear cut rule. So if a GM comes to a camp like this, they would have a clear cut authority to kick someone that is not responding to tells. But from the way it reads now, if someone is there holding a camp and chooses to let someone else share the exp, that's not AFK camping.

Everyone has their own interpretations I suppose. And this is just what I'm seeing.

[Galelor]

Originally Posted by Critical [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vault, I think you are good, because in all honesty there is no difference between ur brother being there while u kite versus him not being there... The only problem would be if you were to move or adjust his character by buffing/looting etc like was mentioned before.

I am going to buy a boat next summer....

[Slave]

I have to agree that:

0 people playing for 1/2 experience

does not equal

1 person playing for 1 experience, divided however many ways.

[Brandonian10]

Create a dedicated character to play exclusively when your brother is online, duo with him. Then create another character to put all your excessive unemployed free time into. That way you always have similarly leveled characters, he actually gets to play, you could twink your duo with your higher character, and you get to avoid all this..... nonsense.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Brandonian10 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Create a dedicated character to play exclusively when your brother is online, duo with him. Then create another character to put all your excessive unemployed free time into. That way you always have similarly leveled characters, he actually gets to play, you could twink your duo with your higher character, and you get to avoid all this..... nonsense.

Common sense, how we underestimate it. He's right.

[Naerron]

If he's just asleep at home, just be like wake up bro and stop us from gettin banned if a problem comes up

[Waedawen]

Originally Posted by Safon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Get over yourself.