Does Swiftwind's Haste stack with Haste from other items?

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Napkin math (higher number is better):
Mainhand: damage x2 + damage bonus /delay
Offhand: Mainhand: damage x2 /delay

Best is to parse though.

A FB is a pretty bad ranger weapon for group work but decent for solo. With your dual wield skill being so low I’d go 2h until a Swiftwind. I had a woodsman and solid haste until 58 and even before the 2h damage bonus upgrade it did very well. It’s not for everyone “feel” wise but it’s extremely difficult/costly to beat.

I pretty much solo exclusively right now, and I alternate between 2 Lamentations and a Silver Swiftblade. And my Dual Wield is capped at 205 right now.

I don't want to invest in a Woodsman's Staff because it's Ranger only and would be hard to resell later. I tried to buy a Springwood Stave as an alternative (since it's dirt cheap and not too big of a dropoff in DPS) but couldn't find a seller.

When you say FB is a bad ranger weapon for group play, I'm assuming that's because its proc is high threat (because of the AC debuff) and bad for a Ranger that doesn't intend to tank in a group? Does that mean that using Flame Lick, Immolate, or Call of Sky Proc is a bad idea in a group for a Ranger that isn't tanking?

[Snaggles]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...light=Woodsman

One of a few times I sold a Woodsman Staff. Always made 3.5-5k. Here is a post of the Wiki today

https://wiki.project1999.com/Woodsman%27s_Staff

In that same time Jade Mace’s and Lamentarions have dropped in half, or less.

Do whatever you want. I’m trying to give seasoned advice here based on math. Killing npcs twice as fast is twice the exp or twice the plat if there are enough spawns.

A woodsman is a .885 ratio. Lammies are .473 (and your offhand is probably only swinging 1/3rd the time). A Silver Swiftblade is .66 ratio. Shrug, the Woodsman was the GOAT in Kunark for rangers, now it’s even better. If it doesn’t fit your justification/narrative that’s fine but it’s still the best upgrade for the money per the calculator for your level.

[Loadsamoney]

What about Argent Protector. It's pretty close at 0.857 and a Pally or SK can use it later. My Pally is close to getting Fiery Avenger so is probably beyond AP, but I intend to make a Troll SK at some point.

[Snaggles]

The AP is on par with an exquisite. I used a reaver from lvl 40-55 then a Narandi from 55-60 soloing with my paladin. Not being ranger-usable is a bummer.

IMHO; the AP is nice and serviceable I guess. You could also go with a Herbalist Spade. Most the chardok stuff is overfarmed and likely to lose value. The Woodsman is farmed less (City of Mist black reavers) and has a fairly unique graphic so it's the go-to choice for cheap ranger alts.

[Loadsamoney]

I guess the ultimate question would be: Will I still be using my Woodsman Staff (or Springwood) even after I've completed my Epic? The only reason I can see to use a 2-hander at that point is if I'm fighting raid mobs with a damage shield.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only reason I can see to use a 2-hander at that point is if I'm fighting raid mobs with a damage shield.

Or jousting.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or jousting.

Wouldn't Argent Protector beat Woodsman in that sense then? More potential damage per swing, and because of the delay, a bigger damage bonus. Woodsman wins clearly in one on one, but AP would be better for jousting and probably more efficient against damage shields too.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wouldn't Argent Protector beat Woodsman in that sense then? More potential damage per swing, and because of the delay, a bigger damage bonus. Woodsman wins clearly in one on one, but AP would be better for jousting and probably more efficient against damage shields too.

Besides a tantor an Earthshaker is the GOAT jousting ranger weapon. 56dmg bonus at 60, possible 246dd proc.

AP is a bit worse than Woodsman ratio wise, it also looks silly (imho).

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Besides a tantor an Earthshaker is the GOAT jousting ranger weapon. 56dmg bonus at 60, possible 246dd proc.

AP is a bit worse than Woodsman ratio wise, it also looks silly (imho).

That's pretty much why I refuse to use Woodsmans, because it looks silly for a Ranger to be using a two-handed staff like they're a Monk or something. But I'm still gonna get a Springwood, to train 2hb if nothing else.

But for the other two weapons, Frostbringer Main Hand and Winter's Edge in the Offhand I take it, until I get Swiftwind to replace it anyway?

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's pretty much why I refuse to use Woodsmans, because it looks silly for a Ranger to be using a two-handed staff like they're a Monk or something. But I'm still gonna get a Springwood, to train 2hb if nothing else.

But for the other two weapons, Frostbringer Main Hand and Winter's Edge in the Offhand I take it, until I get Swiftwind to replace it anyway?

You don't have to train 2hb at all if you don't want to. You can use Silver Swiftblade to 30; once the damage cap goes away get a better ratio one (.75%+) and use that until you get your epic. People always go Woodsman because it's 30% cheaper than a 2hs (since it's ranger only).

Neither. Seriously, find a good 2hs and do not look back. When you get a Swiftwind you can worry about what to MH with it. Guard Captain Mallet is easily the best ranger weapon for the plat once you are 50+ and epiced. If you want to dual-wield before that feel free but know you are actively handicapping yourself.