America moves even closer to being a full blown police state....

[Psionide]

Supreme Court rules that evidence illegally obtained during unlawful searches can now be used in court rofl. All this talk about the 2nd amendment and nobody is even talking about how the 4th amendment has just gotten even weaker smdh.

[Pokesan]

It allows police to stop anyone for no reason whatsoever, do a warrant check, and then search incident to arrest anyone with a warrant

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It allows police to stop anyone for no reason whatsoever, do a warrant check, and then search incident to arrest anyone with a warrant

I don't follow.

Does this allow them to search anyone, whenever, and have this evidence be 100% admissible under ALL circumstances?

I am guessing the ruling only applies to specific circumstances where the target has an existing criminal warrant out, correct?

If so, who gives a shit?

[Efwan]

Originally Posted by Psionide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Supreme Court rules that evidence illegally obtained during unlawful searches can now be used in court rofl. All this talk about the 2nd amendment and nobody is even talking about how the 4th amendment has just gotten even weaker smdh.

Nope, you're an idiot, proven by the fact that you use the acronym "smdh" on goblin town simulator forums.

[AzzarTheGod]

so they can search criminals with criminal warrants and have the evidence presented.

wow sound the alarm

protip: don't be a criminal. With weed being decriminalized/legalized for recreational use most of you guys won't have any skin in the bullshit "civil liberties" game soon. good riddance. Oh wait you are still going to bitch for the sake of bitching.

[Bazia]

be nice if they legalized full rec so i could stop putting the shit in my boxers when i go everywhere

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so they can search criminals with criminal warrants and have the evidence presented.

wow sound the alarm

protip: don't be a criminal. With weed being decriminalized/legalized for recreational use most of you guys won't have any skin in the bullshit "civil liberties" game soon. good riddance. Oh wait you are still going to bitch for the sake of bitching.

It's not about searching criminals though. The case in question was about a stop and search later deemed illegal that nonetheless produced a warrant. The guy shouldn't have been stopped and questioned in the first place - it was deemed illegal to do so - but so what because a warrant was found.

Cops can therefore stop and search anyone for any reason and if a warrant is found they score. What are the penalties for an illegal stop and search anyway right? I haven't even heard of penalties for it.

[maskedmelon]

I don't see the issue here. The law is not meant to protect criminals. It is there to protect privacy and private property. It there so you don't have to deal with the private humility of being fondled by and officer looking for a weapon, or the public humility of having your earwax collection uncovered and revealed by a curious officer or having your vehicle commandeered for a 'training mission'. It is not there for criminals to hide behind.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not about searching criminals though.

Except it is.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The law is not meant to protect criminals.

The law is meant to protect EVERYONE.


"[The] valid, pre-existing, and untainted arrest warrant attenuated the connection between the unconstitutional investigatory stop and the evidence seized incident to a lawful arrest."

Somebody didn't read the dictionary definition of attenuate when they said this. How does the fact that there was an entirely unrelated warrant out for a dude reduce the connection between the illegal stop and the seizure of evidence? The evidence would not have been seized then and there if not for the illegal stop!