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Old 10-21-2020, 07:02 AM
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First and Foremost this isn’t in RnF for a reason. Please submit one or two serious ideas of a solution for the current raiding scene that you think might possibly be agreed upon across all parties. NO CSR or MAKE it Red or Rotate everything are not constructive. This is a serious thread for us to brainstorm on a player made agreement that will 1) lighten the load on GM involvement 2) create less petitions 3) keep this server fun and competitive without pseudo instancing.
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Old 10-21-2020, 07:07 AM
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psuedo instancing is the actual answer tho
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Old 10-22-2020, 06:22 AM
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psuedo instancing is the actual answer tho
Yup. It's 2020, we are all 35ish now. Let's do this. Blue only.

Also imagine how little CSR support is needed with this solution.
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Old 10-21-2020, 07:21 AM
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Rotate...some things?

Prime candidates: ST, Tunare, AoW, all city leaders, Vulak, Dozekar, CT.

For the remainder of mobs institute FTE lockouts. Others who have very recently (mostly Freedom members I might add) proposed a lockout system would have better details on the nuts and bolts.

This meta of trains and standoffs in NToV simply has to end, and lockouts seem like one of the most direct and simple methods if we agree to preserve the so called "competitive" aspects. They rooted the dragons and the playerbase's response in service of your precious "competition" has been to create giant clusterfucks of controlled train behavior. No GM can figure this shit out fairly from grainy fraps and screenshots, half the time the guilds in question can't even determine who's at fault for what since everyone's a millisecond from utter chaos anyway.

Somewhat related, I'd add that "unroot dragons" is also not constructive, though I'd disagree with you that rotating the majority of content isn't a constructive road to walk.
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Old 10-23-2020, 12:57 PM
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Rotate...some things?

Prime candidates: ST, Tunare, AoW, all city leaders, Vulak, Dozekar, CT.
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Old 10-21-2020, 07:27 AM
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Old 10-21-2020, 12:03 PM
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Old 10-21-2020, 12:27 PM
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Made some amendments to my suggestion

Harsher concessions idea - No more concede 2 on a single target - apply to entire zone. For places like TOV this becomes a way to make sure people are MUCH more careful with their trains, to the point they wont sit their raid force on another raid force at all most likely unless absolutely necessary. No more of this, we wait on top of them for them to clear the trash then run in stuff. Individuals (the account rather) responsible for said shenanigans receiving a punishment 2x as long.

Anti leapfrogging - 20 minute lockout on FTE as soon as you feel your raid force is ready to engage in that time. Be it killing adds, figuring out kites, whatever, 20 minutes to get your shit together or lose your FTE and another guild can engage. That's the time between statue / AoW and basically all turn ins like Zordak so why not make it universal? This means you still have to play the game and work for your pixels and compete with the other guilds to clear toward targets faster, but wont get screwed over at the very end by a leapfrog. Please note this does not mean a concession on said target, it just means people can then step in.

SPECIAL VULAK ADDITTION
If the final blocker is engaged, races for Vulak must start from a fresh coth / clear. No more sitting on Vulak with guard pre-kites leaving yellow text up to the RNG of who hits it first when the blocker dies. Gives -all- the guilds in TOV at the time the same opportunity to start moving and the ability to compete.

Rotation proposals -

ST- Just give one guild ST every week who can kill there and rotate it. Dont worry about individual golems on X day under Y circumstance because Z killed them last time. Dont make it over complicated, make it simple. Its 24 hour windows for mobs that 99% of the time drop only plat. Gross. This would be (as far as i know) AG, Freedom, Riot, and Kittens having one week slots with 6 golems per month as theirs. If there are more guilds that have enough ST keys and interest or more become keyed enough, they could also be added. It would basically be 6 golems every month / 5 weeks at that point without mindlessly socking 24 hour windows. Better for EVERYONE"S sanity.

Tunare - If you can actually clear growth ON YOUR OWN within 10 hours, you get a rotation slot. Every third week give the option to let guilds who cant do it on their own band together to try. So far the guilds that have interest is AG, Freedom, and Riot. If Kittens has the interest, I'd say give them a slot as well, they're certainly large enough if they wanted to try. Idk if Freedom has / can clear PoG on their own in said time, but if they CAN, give them a slot. No team ups on solo slots. Week after rotation completion - If any smaller guilds want to band together to clear PoG leave the option open to them. If they pass on said option, rotation starts anew.

Ring war - Rotate if you can clear it. Same day clear as spawn. If you have no interest in doing your RW because it conflicts with the spawn cycle, pass along to the next guild, if they don't want to, on to the next guild, if there is no guild left in rotation - open it to non rotated guilds or it becomes FFA next day, but then rotation continues as normal. As of right now the guilds able / wishing to TO MY KNOWLEDGE are AG, Freedom, Riot, Kittens for initial rotation proposal.

Leave everything else as is. Kael, Dain, VP races are what keep some people going, it's fun, and anyone who is keyed / factioned is eligible.

***TOD's on rotated mobs to be shared in the UN on their final kill of that guilds spawn cycle so that everyone does knows when their mobs come into window and can plan accordingly**

Is this something all of the leadership would agree to so that we can all get ourselves lifted from our suspensions?
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Old 10-21-2020, 07:28 AM
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My suggestion is FTE race for a 45 minute lockout on a mob. Vulak would need special consideration.
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Old 10-21-2020, 07:31 AM
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Id honestly love to see a hybrid rotation system, similar to what Fammaden suggested.

But moreover, crying wolf punishments need to be real, and have teeth. If I file a petition against guild A, for violating a rule, and it turns out they didn't violate that rule, my guild should get a one week suspension, simple as that. I feel it wouod take a lot of the petty raid crap off the table, because it wouldn't be worth being wrong. As of now, filing a false/wrong/petty petition has no consequence.

I want to see a count of the number of petitions filed by each guild over the last month or two. Let's put it in real perspective.
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