Seek employment

[blindedsoul]

Try to understand this concept as I have talked with many homeless after sharing my meals with them.
Have you ever considered that most people in that scenario would not want to freeze to death with no community support so the majority of the united states homeless population travels to the more temperate California?

Men are blasting themselves off into space with rockets paying no patriotic tax contribution at all ZERO that could home every homeless person in America if we just had the salt to tax them again (60%+ prior to reagan over 10 mill) and instead we are blaming a helpless homeless population struggling to survive and eat?

If you get sick and become homeless, would you want to be treated the way your treating others?


(How many hundreds of thousands will your plan cover? Chances are it still wont be enough. We have US doctors suggesting gofundme for cancer treatments on people who have good insurance. 50% of People get a type of cancer in their lifetime on average)
(Trash concept my preference would be tiny homes homes with a trash bin near every one of them they work, cut down on trash and create security + residence to apply for jobs) https://youthspiritartworks.org/prog...house-village/

Be a part of the solution not the problem. " 100 Homes for 100 Homeless Youth "

[Gatordash]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

imo letting ppl live in piles of filth and trash is inhumane

There are a ton of trash cans on Venice Beach. Why not just take the trash from your tent and put it in one of the hundred of trash cans there?

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

imo letting ppl live in piles of filth and trash is inhumane

Alan Grant (Sam Neill): Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions.

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by blindedsoul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try to understand this concept as I have talked with many homeless after sharing my meals with them.
Have you ever considered that most people in that scenario would not want to freeze to death with no community support so the majority of the united states homeless population travels to the more temperate California?

Men are blasting themselves off into space with rockets paying no patriotic tax contribution at all ZERO that could home every homeless person in America if we just had the salt to tax them again (60%+ prior to reagan over 10 mill) and instead we are blaming a helpless homeless population struggling to survive and eat?

If you get sick and become homeless, would you want to be treated the way your treating others?


(How many hundreds of thousands will your plan cover? Chances are it still wont be enough. We have US doctors suggesting gofundme for cancer treatments on people who have good insurance. 50% of People get a type of cancer in their lifetime on average)
(Trash concept my preference would be tiny homes homes with a trash bin near every one of them they work, cut down on trash and create security + residence to apply for jobs) https://youthspiritartworks.org/prog...house-village/

Be a part of the solution not the problem. " 100 Homes for 100 Homeless Youth "

Tldr; we could give heroin addicts homes and that would "fix" them

[Jibartik]

No moratorium extension for the people of Venice beach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[hobart]

Originally Posted by Gatordash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could probably sum up a large part of the Conservative vs Liberal debate as, Take responsibility for your actions VS blame others and make excuses.

You could if sum it up that way if you were a simpleton. Trumptards can't even take responsibility for losing an election. Then again, Donald Trump and his followers are not conservative.

Twitter is not real life. Most of the people who bitch about liberals don't know any. Most of us who live amongst the most performatively woke just laugh at them.

Liberal and conservative don't mean anything anymore.

[Thorgrimm]

Originally Posted by hobart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could if sum it up that way if you were a simpleton. Trumptards can't even take responsibility for losing an election. Then again, Donald Trump and his followers are not conservative.

Twitter is not real life. Most of the people who bitch about liberals don't know any. Most of us who live amongst the most performatively woke just laugh at them.

Liberal and conservative don't mean anything anymore.

Rent Free

[Jibartik]

one not so nice way to put it might be

one side is a loser and blames everyone and the other side is a loser and blames everyone

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by blindedsoul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try to understand this concept as I have talked with many homeless after sharing my meals with them.
Have you ever considered that most people in that scenario would not want to freeze to death with no community support so the majority of the united states homeless population travels to the more temperate California?

Men are blasting themselves off into space with rockets paying no patriotic tax contribution at all ZERO that could home every homeless person in America if we just had the salt to tax them again (60%+ prior to reagan over 10 mill) and instead we are blaming a helpless homeless population struggling to survive and eat?

If you get sick and become homeless, would you want to be treated the way your treating others?


(How many hundreds of thousands will your plan cover? Chances are it still wont be enough. We have US doctors suggesting gofundme for cancer treatments on people who have good insurance. 50% of People get a type of cancer in their lifetime on average)
(Trash concept my preference would be tiny homes homes with a trash bin near every one of them they work, cut down on trash and create security + residence to apply for jobs) https://youthspiritartworks.org/prog...house-village/

Be a part of the solution not the problem. " 100 Homes for 100 Homeless Youth "

Simply throwing homes at homeless people is no solution at all

There are two kinds of homeless people: ones that are temporarily homeless and ones that are chronically homeless. The temporarily homeless are typically people who were high-functioning previously, and fell on some hard times. There are enough supports in place for these people to get off the streets again. These are the types of people who can schedule an appointment for a screening and qualify for a transitional shelter: which is a shelter you can stay at for an extended period of time such as many months. They typically will allow a grace period of a few weeks were the person can stay for free, then they attempt to find them some work such as working in a call center or a labor job that they can then use to pay a very low monthly rent, like $100-200

There is far more of the other type of homeless, the chronically homeless. These people were never high functioning, either due to mental illness or serious substance abuse or both. These people typically can not qualify for a transitional shelter, and even emergency shelters don't want to take them. Why? Because either their mental state causes them to be a danger to themselves or others, or else they need to be doing hard illegal drugs daily, which shelters will not tolerate. These people you cannot just throw a house at. It's been done and it always plays out the same. If you were not a high functioning individual, you don't have the mental capability of maintaining a home. So the home gets completely thrashed, until it becomes inhabitable. And all that money spent on building it is wasted. Now, something that is difficult to destroy, such as a large storage container furnished with metal furniture that can be washed, that actually could work, and is being done in places like california

But you won't ever solve the issue of chronic homelessness for a few reasons. You can't force someone into substance abuse treatment. And no insurances want to pay for seriously mentally ill people to be put into the residential treatment centers for months-years at a time. That is insanely expensive. You have the cost of paying all the staff, which is a high cost because they all need to be licensed and certified. Then you have the cost of getting the license to operate as a RTC. The cost of maintaining the building. Cost of everyone's medications. Cost of food. Etc. Insanely expensive. AND, you also have a large chunk of seriously mentally ill who don't recognize it, and therefore wouldn't willingly go to a residential treatment center. So then you have the ethical dilemma of getting a court to take away their rights, and force them into one

So because of these issues, you are only going to see more and more chronically homeless people. And it has NOTHING to do with there not being enough houses for them to live in

[starkind]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simply throwing homes at homeless people is no solution at all

There are two kinds of homeless people: ones that are temporarily homeless and ones that are chronically homeless. The temporarily homeless are typically people who were high-functioning previously, and fell on some hard times. There are enough supports in place for these people to get off the streets again. These are the types of people who can schedule an appointment for a screening and qualify for a transitional shelter: which is a shelter you can stay at for an extended period of time such as many months. They typically will allow a grace period of a few weeks were the person can stay for free, then they attempt to find them some work such as working in a call center or a labor job that they can then use to pay a very low monthly rent, like $100-200

There is far more of the other type of homeless, the chronically homeless. These people were never high functioning, either due to mental illness or serious substance abuse or both. These people typically can not qualify for a transitional shelter, and even emergency shelters don't want to take them. Why? Because either their mental state causes them to be a danger to themselves or others, or else they need to be doing hard illegal drugs daily, which shelters will not tolerate. These people you cannot just throw a house at. It's been done and it always plays out the same. If you were not a high functioning individual, you don't have the mental capability of maintaining a home. So the home gets completely thrashed, until it becomes inhabitable. And all that money spent on building it is wasted. Now, something that is difficult to destroy, such as a large storage container furnished with metal furniture that can be washed, that actually could work, and is being done in places like california

But you won't ever solve the issue of chronic homelessness for a few reasons. You can't force someone into substance abuse treatment. And no insurances want to pay for seriously mentally ill people to be put into the residential treatment centers for months-years at a time. That is insanely expensive. You have the cost of paying all the staff, which is a high cost because they all need to be licensed and certified. Then you have the cost of getting the license to operate as a RTC. The cost of maintaining the building. Cost of everyone's medications. Cost of food. Etc. Insanely expensive. AND, you also have a large chunk of seriously mentally ill who don't recognize it, and therefore wouldn't willingly go to a residential treatment center. So then you have the ethical dilemma of getting a court to take away their rights, and force them into one

So because of these issues, you are only going to see more and more chronically homeless people. And it has NOTHING to do with there not being enough houses for them to live in

Maybe prisons for nonviolent drug offenses and the mentally ill should be just a tiny bit nicer than the various versions of the Siberian gulag we operate now.

Also fix the economy and health care by allowing normal ppl to own business, be doctors, pharmacists etc.

Also stop using immigrants for hvac, agriculture, and tradeskills.

Oh wait, u couldn't have fancy golf courses and miles of cheep syndicated retail if individuals could choose alternatives to Walmart or the supermarket.