Project 1999

Go Back   Project 1999 > General Community > Off Topic

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 04-17-2021, 10:32 PM
Ennewi Ennewi is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,197
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
They don't do anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5gEyPRXtNU
  #22  
Old 04-17-2021, 10:40 PM
G13 G13 is offline
Banned


Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 898
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
They literally don't do anything for Covid

It's called Science
  #23  
Old 04-17-2021, 11:04 PM
Ennewi Ennewi is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,197
Default

The scientific community would not consider one study to be definitive; no matter how thorough or conclusive that study is, more is the standard.

But just for argument's sake, even if masks only provide a false sense of security, consider the general public's track record with most any uncertainty faced just within the past two decades and then take into account the other news stories...

https://abc7chicago.com/easter-egg-h...ticut/1265195/

https://www.cbc.ca/archives/when-the...ling-1.4921367

Cut to 2020's hand sanitizer and toilet paper shortages.

An adult pacifier that encourages people to talk less and avoid interacting with each other isn't exactly a bad thing. And, to my knowledge, the only harm has been from littering.
  #24  
Old 04-17-2021, 11:16 PM
G13 G13 is offline
Banned


Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 898
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The scientific community would not consider one study to be definitive; no matter how thorough or conclusive that study is, more is the standard.

But just for argument's sake, even if masks only provide a false sense of security, consider the general public's track record with most any uncertainty faced just within the past two decades and then take into account the other news stories...

https://abc7chicago.com/easter-egg-h...ticut/1265195/

https://www.cbc.ca/archives/when-the...ling-1.4921367

Cut to 2020's hand sanitizer and toilet paper shortages.

An adult pacifier that encourages people to talk less and avoid interacting with each other isn't exactly a bad thing. And, to my knowledge, the only harm has been from littering.
Quote:
According to the current knowledge, the virus SARS-CoV-2 has a diameter of 60 nm to 140 nm [nanometers (billionth of a meter), while medical and non-medical facemasks’ thread diameter ranges from 55 µm to 440 µm [micrometers (one millionth of a meter), which is more than 1000 times larger. Due to the difference in sizes between SARS-CoV-2 diameter and facemasks thread diameter (the virus is 1000 times smaller), SARS-CoV-2 can easily pass through any facemask.
If you can find a study that shows the Covid virus is 1000 times larger than what is currently known, please provide it

Otherwise, the rest of your post is an admission that masks don't do anything, but people need to be controlled because they want to buy an Elmo doll
  #25  
Old 04-17-2021, 11:25 PM
FatherSioux FatherSioux is offline
Banned


Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 1,017
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
An adult pacifier that encourages people to talk less and avoid interacting with each other isn't exactly a bad thing. And, to my knowledge, the only harm has been from littering.
Sounds like a bad thing to me...
  #26  
Old 04-17-2021, 11:52 PM
Ennewi Ennewi is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,197
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
If you can find a study that shows the Covid virus is 1000 times larger than what is currently known, please provide it

Otherwise, the rest of your post is an admission that masks don't do anything, but people need to be controlled because they want to buy an Elmo doll
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...cks-evidence-/

Quote:
In November, it published the article cited in the Facebook post, which was authored by Baruch Vainshelboim. The article says Vainshelboim works in a cardiology division of the U.S. Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System in California. He identifies himself in his LinkedIn profile as a clinical exercise physiologist, with a doctorate from University of Porto in Portugal.

The part of the article copied in the Facebook post lists 12 physiological effects as being caused by wearing a face mask. They include conditions such as hypoxemia and hypercapnia, as well as more general effects such as shortness of breath, "toxicity" and "increased muscle tension."

"This is a list of generally discredited hypotheses that have been tested and disproved," said Benjamin Neuman, biology professor at Texas A&M University and chief viologist of the university’s Global Health Research Complex.

"This seems to be a piece of deceptive writing from what appears to be a non-expert. It isn't science."

We tried to reach Vainshelboim by phone and email and did not receive a reply.

Our ruling
A widely shared Facebook post that links to a medical journal article says to "follow the science" of a list of physiological effects said to be caused by wearing masks.

The article was written by an exercise physiologist and was published by Medical Hypotheses, a journal that says its purpose is to publish "interesting theoretical papers."

There is not evidence to back the article’s list of claimed effects from mask wearing.

We rate the post False.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFact

When time permits, I will try to find better sources.

But still, even if masks are ineffective against covid, they still protect against the spread of other viruses which cause people to believe they have covid symptoms. The positive result would then be fewer patients needlessly in hospital, thereby reducing the strain on medical professionals, which goes back to the point made about consumer behavior trends.
  #27  
Old 04-17-2021, 11:56 PM
Ennewi Ennewi is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,197
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FatherSioux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Sounds like a bad thing to me...
Try red.
  #28  
Old 04-18-2021, 12:05 AM
Ennewi Ennewi is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,197
Default

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Sweet_(writer)
https://mobile.twitter.com/DrMatthew...09595264036868

Quote:
It’s by someone called Baruch Vainshelboim. He seems to be a sports physiologist with some link to Stanford. But the publication in which his work appears is not peer-reviewed, and it has weird spelling mistakes and footnotes with no page refs.
Quote:
And here it is, cited in a classroom example of how to teach people to spot dubious scientific research on the internet. https://t.co/omrfDs7sKT?amp=1
Quote:
So I think this why you were given a short ban. You misrepresented some random article on the internet as a Stanford peer-reviewed study, which Twitter probably counts as medical misinformation. Now you know this you can issue a correction to your 125k followers
Last edited by Ennewi; 04-18-2021 at 12:09 AM..
  #29  
Old 04-18-2021, 12:21 AM
Ennewi Ennewi is offline
Planar Protector


Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,197
Default

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_Hypotheses

Quote:
Medical Hypotheses is a not-conventionally-peer reviewed[2] medical journal published by Elsevier. It was originally intended as a forum for unconventional ideas without the traditional filter of scientific peer review, "as long as (the ideas) are coherent and clearly expressed" in order to "foster the diversity and debate upon which the scientific process thrives."[3] The publication of papers on AIDS denialism[4][5][6] led to calls to remove it from PubMed, the United States National Library of Medicine online journal database.[5] Following the AIDS papers controversy, Elsevier forced a change in the journal's leadership. In June 2010, Elsevier announced that "Submitted manuscripts will be reviewed by the Editor and external reviewers to ensure their scientific merit".[7]
Quote:
AIDS denialism papers and fallout
In 2009, the journal's publisher, Elsevier, withdrew two articles written by AIDS denialists that had been accepted for publication. One of the withdrawn articles, written by Peter Duesberg and David Rasnick, claimed that there is "yet no proof that HIV causes AIDS" and was not responsible for deaths in South Africa that another paper had attributed to it and misrepresented the results of medical research on antiretroviral drugs.[22][30] This paper had originally been submitted to the Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndromes (JAIDS), but it was rejected after peer review. One of the editors of JAIDS later cited problems with the paper, alleging that it had contained cherry-picking and other dishonest claims.[31] The publisher stated that the articles "could potentially be damaging to global public health. Concern has also been expressed that the article contains potentially libelous material. Given these important signals of concern, we judge it correct to investigate the circumstances in which this article came to be published online."[30]
  #30  
Old 04-18-2021, 12:34 AM
Trexller Trexller is offline
Planar Protector

Trexller's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,559
Default

yeah those of us still capable of independant thought already knew this.

You know how the recommendation is a cloth mask? Yeah, you heard that...

So let me ask you, how am I able to smell a fart through someones underwear and pants, if that material is the same or similiar to any cloth mask?

the covid virus particles are miniscule, and the water micro-droplets that the cloth mask is supposed to catch, are going to be a similiar size to the various chemicals that produce the smell, including water micro-droplets.

So again, if the mask is the answer, why can we still smell a fart? It all gets through the fabrics.

What you are all witnessing is called a civil obedience test. Mark my words, you have not seen the last of globalist agenda being jammed down your throat.
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:50 AM.


Everquest is a registered trademark of Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Project 1999 is not associated or affiliated in any way with Daybreak Game Company LLC.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.