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Old 08-06-2014, 11:44 AM
Daldaen Daldaen is offline
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Going through the crucible spells some of those values are weird.

Malosini has a 6 min duration
Canni III returns only 38 mana

But that does seem evidence to indicate it wasn't draining mana in mid Velious.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:05 PM
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It really hurts me to do this but...

We do use the post April 17, 2001 version of canni.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010417a.html

Cannibalize IV now exists. This spell is now available in Velious.
Cannibalize II and III have had their effects improved. They now return more mana to the caster than they did before.

Cannibalize III
-78 HP / + 36 to 38 Mana

There is no details for Canni II though.

http://web.archive.org/web/200104260.../allspells.htm

The other thing to note for Avatar is: +100 Strength, Dexterity, Agility, and Attack Avatar requires an Emerald to cast. It will overwrite our 57 Strength buff, and has a recast delay of 3 minutes.

On topic though it does not list any mana drain on Torpor: Torpor will regenerate 1200 HP over 4 ticks, however while in effect it will snare you, and reduce your attack speed (note: Some Shaman have reported Torpor doing 1540 over 5 ticks).
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:33 PM
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But that does seem evidence to indicate it wasn't draining mana in mid Velious.
Velious spdat on the trilogy cd last modified 8/22/01:

Torpor


Increase Heal over Time by 300 (L60)
Decrease Movement by 100% (L60)
Decrease Attack Speed by 30% (L60)


Classes: Shm (L60)
Skill: Alteration
Allowable Targets: All
Range to Target: 100 feet
Resistance Check: None
Mana Required: 200
Spell Duration: 4 ticks (24 seconds)
Duration Formula: 10
Casting Time: 6.0 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.50 seconds
Spell cast on you: You fall into a state of torpor.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso falls into a state of torpor.
Spell fades: Your state of torpor ends.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:39 PM
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The Kunark and Velious discs don't download a spell file right? That was something that we patched each time we loaded? Or will it have a stock "release" spell data file? I know I have my discs somewhere. I may see if they load up a spell data file that may point to mana drain on it at either Kunark or Velious release if that's the case.

If neither of them have it then I'd say it's a closed case.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:42 PM
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It really hurts me to do this but...

We do use the post April 17, 2001 version of canni.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010417a.html

Cannibalize IV now exists. This spell is now available in Velious.
Cannibalize II and III have had their effects improved. They now return more mana to the caster than they did before.

Cannibalize III
-78 HP / + 36 to 38 Mana

There is no details for Canni II though.
This July 25, 2001 snapshot of Caster's Realm shows Canni II as -67 hp // +28 to +33 mana.

http://web.archive.org/web/200107251...ll.asp?Id=1222

Does P99 currently use the mana return listed on the wiki +30 to +36?

http://wiki.project1999.com/Cannibalize_II
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Old 08-07-2014, 03:07 PM
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Canni II is correct at -67hp / 33mana @60 Wiki is incorrect, but that would make it post canni IV patch.
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Old 08-07-2014, 03:25 PM
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Velious spdat about a week or so after release (http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...postcount=13):

Torpor
Regeneration for 1200 Hit Points (HP) in 4 ticks
Decrease Attack Speed by 30% (L60)
Decrease Movement by 100% (L60)


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Classes: Shm (L60)

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Range to Target: 100 feet

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Skill: Alteration
Allowable Targets: All

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Resistance Check: None

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Mana Required: 200
Spell Duration: 4 ticks (24 seconds)
Duration Formula: 10
Casting Time: 6.0 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.50 seconds

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Spell cast on you: You fall into a state of torpor.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso falls into a state of torpor.
Spell fades: Your state of torpor ends.


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Old 08-07-2014, 04:10 PM
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Velious spdat about a week or so after release:

Torpor
Regeneration for 1200 Hit Points (HP) in 4 ticks
Decrease Attack Speed by 30% (L60)
Decrease Movement by 100% (L60)


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Classes: Shm (L60)

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Range to Target: 100 feet

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Skill: Alteration
Allowable Targets: All

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Resistance Check: None

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Mana Required: 200
Spell Duration: 4 ticks (24 seconds)
Duration Formula: 10
Casting Time: 6.0 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.50 seconds

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Spell cast on you: You fall into a state of torpor.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso falls into a state of torpor.
Spell fades: Your state of torpor ends.


Need a kunark spdat
spdats are alpha/beta values...

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Old 08-07-2014, 04:23 PM
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spdats are alpha/beta values...
What?

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Bryjun destroying the selfish agendas of OP and followers. Stop quoting random_forum_post_001 as hard evidence.
90% of the things that get "fixed" here are from old forum posts.
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:28 PM
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Kinda have to go with what you're given. Especially when the 2 sites that provided spell data during that era, listed the same thing. And there isn't much other info about it since very few were level 60, and even fewer had that very rare spell drop.

As khanable said also... That's sort of how stuff works around here. Old forum posts and website posts.
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