Spells: Torpor Mana Expenditure

[Velerin]

The mana drain would kind of fit in line with the frenzy line of shaman spells. Gain in melee at expense of mana. It would still be a powerful heal for others. Always thought it was strange shammies (with notoriously high mana cost spells) got a heal that was more efficient than clerics celestial heal.

[Erati]

Torpor sucks, wipe it clean

( so I can buy a cheap copy )

[evilkorn]

masked, you're missing the point, I'll try to explain it further. The server, for all intents and purposes, has every change and fix up to the point of Velious launch. The time between now and when Velious is released to the server for us is the equivalent to the smallest amount of time up until Velious was released in the past.

[maskedmelon]

I get what you are saying Korn. I am just saying without an official launch date we could still be months away and the fix appears to be one of the last changes before launch ^^ I am disinclined to believe though that the devs would bother pushing an spdat update for an unpopular nerf for such a short time when it was never originally intended ^^

Still though... classic! ^^

[Daldaen]

Bumping this back up. This is an important fix to balance out shamans come Kunark.

Specifically its the runspeed stacking issue that needs to be focused on. Torpor should overwrite all runspeed buffs and block all runspeed buffs.

[Bamsham]

I played a lvl 60 shaman in early Kunark back in the day. I was in a raiding guld and was lucky enough to get an early copy of Torpor.

Its been 20 years but from what I remember the 200 mana cost is most likely correct, but it would also drain all your remaining mana.(for the caster). Meaning you needed 200 mana to be able to cast it, but it would cost all your mana you had left.

It didnt make any sense actually giving shamans such a hugely powerful heal, considering shamans and druids had had the same level of heals up to that point.

Therefor I believe Torpor was first meant as a situational last ditch full heal, that they later changed due to its potential making it so popular to shamans they removed the mana-drain.

[Gustoo]

So if this was updated, torpor would be limp for some of kunark and made the same mega power spell it is now, sometime close to velious?

[Dolalin]

I have full spdats from Kunark release into Velious, I'll check Torpor.

The EQCaster exports of them are here if anyone else wants to have a look. It's in excel format

https://github.com/dbsanfte/eq-archi...AT%20Data.xlsx

[Gustoo]

Dolalin is the best.

[Dolalin]

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Torpor didn't get its mana debuff until the April 12, 2000 patch. It then had the mana drain until the Nov 17th, 2000 patch.