Trump “unhinged” but woman who sold the nation ”the secret” our next president

[CyricTheMad420]

Proven it* ah whatever you get the point

[JurisDictum]

The founding fathers were mostly rich grifters like any other group of elites.

They meant freedom from taxes the noble class imposed so they can exploit the poor themselves without having to pay tax. That's the kind of freedom they were about. They were interested in freeing any slaves or making any poor person's life more free.

Were not all rich....so no, most people don't value that kind of freedom because its not freedom at all for them, is it?

[CyricTheMad420]

i would mostly agree, "To Ourselves and Our Posterity" didn't mean every average smoe forever after. however i would argue not all of them were elite power grabbers only out for enriching themselves although probably most of em and most of the presidents as well especially in our life time.

Adams had need of his wealthy friends like Jefferson and with Franklin's help they won over more rich people without whom they would never have gotten a rebellion of the ground. Having said all that though, you can't deny the impact their words has had on generations of Americans and while it may have been social engineering and securing power over the masses it also has cause a lot of us to be raised thinking the old slogans are real, all men created equal and all that. they must have had some idea how those ideas would impact future generations of American in positive ways. at least from the stand point of liberty and keeping government small (although we have failed at that)

[CyricTheMad420]

while they were certainly only human and fail-able and not all strictly hero archetypes they weren't all purely villains either.

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

she sells self help books based off of psudoscience as a solution to lifes problems.

Selling fake solutions is grifting people.

grifting people (incase you didnt know, no disrespect) means to con them.

She is a con artist, as much as trump is. She packages and sells false hope and lies to billions of people over the years.

Just poinging out that she aint no different than trump, and if your democrat friends are stoked on her, then you need to ask them, why are you stoked on someone who is simply a left wing trump? I thought you wanted someone qualified?

I think this is really valuable. In my role as a marketing director I primarily do business with personal development companies. I cut my teeth writing sales copy and sales videos for them.

All self-help, personal Dev industry are con artists. I thought that was a bad thing at first, but now I realize it's okay. Confidence Artists boost people's confidence in themselves and ideas in order to get them to take action. And for so many people who have cucked their life into pieces, a little confidence booster (even if it only lasts for a week during your $5,000 in person seminar), is a sweet treacle tart after a long life of eating barley gruel.

Here's the thing, and this is why Mick is right. Presidents are also con artists. If you don't understand this, I'm sorry, I don't have the time to explain right now. Donald Trump is an extraordinary con artist. So is Oprah. If you hate Trump but like Oprah you're just sucking the green milk out of the weird alien on your party's jedi planet.

Oprah is NOT for laborers. Oprah is NOT for socialism. Oprah is a hardcore capitalist and rightfully seeing her chance to angle herself into the next sphere of oligarchy.

[Raavak]

Oprah's next hot movie due out in March, just in time to start her campaign.

[CyricTheMad420]

Oprah runnning with The Rock lol calling it now

[skarlorn]

^ lol at the possibility.

The Democratic party wouldn't allow it tho. They'll need a strong-looking politically backed VP to add legitimacy on Oprah's claim to the throne.

Rock is gonna wait until the 1 after this. He's got a long way to go yet.

[CyricTheMad420]

yeah prob a good point, i dont think he would be foolish to run against her as lib or something but who knows? lol shit is getting silly with all these celebrities like "im going to run for president and try to change things for all of us!" but really they gonna get the same talk trump got lol and each pres before him since atleast woodrow wilson

[CyricTheMad420]

oh man it just dawned on me, its gonna be Oprah and michelle obama isnt it? lol