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Old 02-16-2020, 05:11 PM
Bhairava Bhairava is offline
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Arrow worst class in classic

currious to know what u guys think is the worst class in classic.

many people i have seen claim rogue is, some ranger, some even say warrior (?)

i personelly like rogues, but im also maybe retarded so
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:15 PM
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Worst should be the one you the least fun with. Some people will exclude you based on what they think is the worst, and that is just stupid
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Old 02-16-2020, 05:47 PM
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:27 PM
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Enchanter, Shaman, Bard, Necro. Do yourself a favor and never play any of these wildly powerful classes.

PS druids and mages suck too.
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:54 PM
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Wizard

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Old 02-16-2020, 08:24 PM
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In Classic, you can say either the class itself, or I’d argue factoring in whatever exp penalty they bring to a group should also be considered.

With that in mind:

-Ranger tops the list. 40% exp penalty, low utility in a group beyond snare, lowest damage out of the pure DPS classes. People will argue “but a Ranger can tank if none of the other 3 are available! They have more sustained DPS than a Wizard!”

*Only in those situations where none of the 3 main tanks can be found. Wizards have amazing utility in raids, whereas Rangers can either be track bots or take death touches. In later expansions (PoP and beyond) Rangers get some amazing ranged DPS options with AA’s and can start really racking it up in parses, but sadly that’s outside the scope of P99.
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Old 02-16-2020, 09:40 PM
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In Classic, you can say either the class itself, or I’d argue factoring in whatever exp penalty they bring to a group should also be considered.

With that in mind:

-Ranger tops the list. 40% exp penalty, low utility in a group beyond snare, lowest damage out of the pure DPS classes. People will argue “but a Ranger can tank if none of the other 3 are available! They have more sustained DPS than a Wizard!”
Aside from snare, there's root, harmony for pulling, SOW if you need it and perhaps the best snap aggro in flame lick. There's a bunch other utility spells as well (invis, damage shields, buffs, cancel magic, etc.). There are lots of bad rangers that may give you the idea they just auto-attack and cast the occasional snare, however.

Honestly, the hybrids are all pretty good in classic-it's Kunark where they really suffer.

Warrior and rogue are both pretty bad in classic due to having few abilities and poor itemization. Monks are also weak, at least in comparison to later. Wizards of course are also a pretty meh grouping class, but have some decent utility.
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Old 02-27-2020, 12:16 PM
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i went from 26-27 at gobs in hk last night in a few hours ~3 with 2 enc, a shm, druid, and mage.. pulling, splitting, tanking mobs ~8lvls higher than i was with cured silk armor and my fists and 30ish regen a tick below 50% with bw macro and 2 charmed pets its all how much effort you feel like putting into making your character work with what you have and do it well.. really shine
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Old 02-27-2020, 01:24 PM
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i went from 26-27 at gobs in hk last night in a few hours ~3 with 2 enc, a shm, druid, and mage.. pulling, splitting, tanking mobs ~8lvls higher than i was with cured silk armor and my fists and 30ish regen a tick below 50% with bw macro and 2 charmed pets its all how much effort you feel like putting into making your character work with what you have and do it well.. really shine
Lol what this really means is:

- You had a ton of good DPS with two charmed rmobs (best DPS in game) which probably included Osargen backstabbing, plus great mage pet DPS. All of which were probably hasted/Auged and putting up amazing numbers; thus decreasing the length of fights drastically. Plus Mage and Enchanter nuke DPS.
- You had haste/aug, which added to the decreased fight time mentioned above even further when combined with the pet DPS. So you weren't taking as much damage overall because of that.
- You had Druid buffs and regen to help make what hits you did take not be significant.
- You had a Shaman or Ench slowing mobs so that the amount of chances you had to take damage (especially when combined with how fast the mobs were being burned down) was drastically reduced.

So what you're really saying is "I had this amazing group composition that allowed me to shine a lot as a Monk tank." Don't get me wrong, I think Monks are certainly serviceable at tanks but even in that group composition I would've rather had an actual tank than a Monk as a tank.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:04 PM
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Lol what this really means is:

- You had a ton of good DPS with two charmed rmobs (best DPS in game) which probably included Osargen backstabbing, plus great mage pet DPS. All of which were probably hasted/Auged and putting up amazing numbers; thus decreasing the length of fights drastically. Plus Mage and Enchanter nuke DPS.
- You had haste/aug, which added to the decreased fight time mentioned above even further when combined with the pet DPS. So you weren't taking as much damage overall because of that.
- You had Druid buffs and regen to help make what hits you did take not be significant.
- You had a Shaman or Ench slowing mobs so that the amount of chances you had to take damage (especially when combined with how fast the mobs were being burned down) was drastically reduced.

So what you're really saying is "I had this amazing group composition that allowed me to shine a lot as a Monk tank." Don't get me wrong, I think Monks are certainly serviceable at tanks but even in that group composition I would've rather had an actual tank than a Monk as a tank.
Lol more like sow + regen mitigated his face aggro pulls bc by the time he flopped mob to the pets it’s probably time to go pull another...
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