Enc Spell Bar

[Phenyo]

Originally Posted by amznBrd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OK, but whare you even using mem blurs for? Often enough that lots of folks dedicate a slot on their bar?

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Any time you are killing a mob that can summon, when you are handling multiple mobs at once that have aggro or you need to clean up a really fucked up situation.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by amznBrd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OK, but whare you even using mem blurs for? Often enough that lots of folks dedicate a slot on their bar?

When you get to killing summoning mobs, memblur is essential anytime charm breaks in order to get the mob off of you. Until summong mobs, it's probably completely unnecessary.

[enjchanter]

You can swap in root, cooldown clicky and insta cast root

You cant do that with blanket
I tend to keep blur up full time and just root when needed

[derblott]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you get to killing summoning mobs, memblur is essential anytime charm breaks in order to get the mob off of you. Until summong mobs, it's probably completely unnecessary.

That makes sense. The golems in the hole are problematic because of this, but I guess it never occurred to me that mem blurs were reliable enough to give up the precious seconds needed to cast one. Sounds like maybe blanket actually is...?

Usually the summoner is slowed so I'm able to squeeze off a recharm with the pet stunned between summons. I'll try out blanket and see how it goes. What's your order of operations when charm breaks while fighting a summoning mob?

[Negativ]

Slant, Boltran's pet back, shift / skew, memblur mob you are killing

[derblott]

Originally Posted by Negativ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Slant, Boltran's pet back, shift / skew, memblur mob you are killing

If you can land a bunch of stuns and recharm anyway, at that point things are back under control and I haven't felt the need to blur the mob...

Is anyone using blur first to get the mob to STOP summoning? If stuns stick on him the recharm is pretty trivial anyway. It's the unstunnable summoning mobs that are a PITA, and seems like blur would be maybe useful to get some space for the re-charm. But if it fails you're screwed.

[Negativ]

If your pet breaks and both are summoning mobs, I almost always get summoned by the mob after recharming pet. BM, PoM, etc. Definitely not undercontrol without blurring the summoning mob you were killing.

[ricquire]

I do a lot of charming in chardok/SG on Red - tend to run..

Tash
TOT or Swap (won't keep TOT up if I know I am doing mostly melee spawns)
Root or Swap (either immobilize or root itself if I need a quick break)
Slow or Swap
Gate
Boltrans
Rapture if pvp expected, dazzle if not, kintaz if high level
Dictate

[enjchanter]

Originally Posted by derblott [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can land a bunch of stuns and recharm anyway, at that point things are back under control and I haven't felt the need to blur the mob...

Is anyone using blur first to get the mob to STOP summoning? If stuns stick on him the recharm is pretty trivial anyway. It's the unstunnable summoning mobs that are a PITA, and seems like blur would be maybe useful to get some space for the re-charm. But if it fails you're screwed.

I mean you're not trying to blur the mob your charming, you're trying to blur the mob that

1) just lost all aggro your charm pet built
2) just ate 2 stuns
3) may not be stun able and is not going to leave you alone because of 1 and 2.

Blurring first is kindof a waste because you're just going to stun it again immediately after and waste the blur essentially

[Barlu]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean you're not trying to blur the mob your charming, you're trying to blur the mob that

1) just lost all aggro your charm pet built
2) just ate 2 stuns
3) may not be stun able and is not going to leave you alone because of 1 and 2.

Blurring first is kindof a waste because you're just going to stun it again immediately after and waste the blur essentially

When dealing with an unstunnable Mob like BM I actually think it makes sense to blur as soon as you’ve got Tash and slow in. Between Tash and sometimes 2-3 slow attempts before getting it to land you’ve got a lot of built up Agro. If you blur prior to charm breaking your right you’ll build some up Agro stunning your pet but a hasted pet at that lvl will peel if off you very fast if it’s just stun Agro.