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Old 08-22-2020, 08:04 AM
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Most proc aggro happens immediately. Procs with damage over time do raise aggro every tick, but since every proc weapon with a dot is low damage it is negligible, and the counter count itself which represents most of the aggro is completely front loaded. Procs with status effects that don't cause damage are also completely front loaded.

Trident of the Deep Sea is a good example. Slow + 20 damage a tick means it does add aggro every tick after the first if the dot lands. Also, all slows are equal in aggro no matter the percentage it is slowing. I do feel like spells that are outright resisted cause more total aggro, but I have nothing to back that up.
Resist thing is an interesting theory would make dain axe probably #1 aggro weapon for a Vox tank hmmm.
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Old 08-24-2020, 10:33 AM
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Take a look at https://wiki.project1999.com/Cracked_Claw_of_Zlandicar which has the proc https://wiki.project1999.com/Incapacitate . This is a very high aggro proc (equal to slow), because it has a -AC component.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Nevederia%27s_Horn has https://wiki.project1999.com/Suffocate which is a very low aggro proc, becuase it doesn't have the -AC component. While the ratio is good and high aggro, you are not going to be turning mobs with a proc that isn't slow, poison counters, or -AC.
Right, I know what the procs do, what I am asking is where you are getting your information that the lack of a -AC component in the nev horn proc makes it less than 400 hate? In other words, how do you know for certain that the -STR plus -AGI debuff combo does not generate 400 hate?
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Old 08-24-2020, 10:37 AM
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Ty for the help gents.. That whip was mysterious to me, nobody ever talks about it haha..
Sorry to burst the bubble but nobody talks about it because it is very bad with the proc agro nerf =(

There is no DD component to the proc, so it is the same 400 hate as any other proc, but the white damage agro from the bad ratio is significantly worse than 10+ other easy to acquire options.

The sole purpose of this weapon would be to snare magic immune mobs.
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Old 08-24-2020, 02:27 PM
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Right, I know what the procs do, what I am asking is where you are getting your information that the lack of a -AC component in the nev horn proc makes it less than 400 hate? In other words, how do you know for certain that the -STR plus -AGI debuff combo does not generate 400 hate?
I have all of these weapons and I can confirm first hand that nev horn is terrible aggro. Have an enchanter cast the spell and watch the mob not turn.
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